A great deal of these companies make both , some a more renowned for one or the other , Ive always thought of SW as more of a Wheelgun company first , I have friends who swear by SW revolvers but wont touch one of there Autos! Im sure many of you are like that , and many of you who were Sigma owners are at the top of the list . Not me , I love both revolvers and autos from Smith! I dont really have a preference over any company , I guess when I get my next 1911 , I will have to see if theres really difference between the the Colt and whoever I buy , My Ruger Redhawk although not in direct comparison with ,my model 66 ,is just as good or better!
I bought the new s&w e-series 1911 commander. I will never trade or sell this gun for any reason. Cant say enough good things about it. But, I love ruger wheel guns, especially the blackhawk series. I also love JLAs new redhawk alaskan 44mag.
Hey Double D what can you tell me about the Ruger SR1911? Heres a prime example of I love Ruger wheel guns ,but there autos are junk , not so sure about the sr 1911 though , it looks like a nice gun?
Years ago the S&W Model 39 semi-auto's had kind of a bad reputation. They ate extractors. Their Bullseye semi-auto was the Model 52. I always wanted one and found one in good shape used. I paid too much but it was the first one I had ever seen or handled in 20 some years of looking for one.
The point is after buying it I found out that it was nothing more than a tweaked Model 39. But the bluing is deep and beautiful. The fit and finish is superb. And it shoots great. Then I realized that I passed up many S&W Model 39's based on their reputation and not on actual guns. It seems only the first versions had the extractor problem (unfortunately my Model 52 is the early version but no problem with the extractor just yet).
Don't pass judgement on a specific gun without some kind of proof.
Another example is the Sig Trailside. It died a terrible death based on a reputation that the takedown lever/trigger guard was aluminum and broke. They even had pictures on a web site (this one??). But the takedown lever/trigger guard is steel (it is attracted to a magnet!) and few passes of a file fixed mine so it can never break, if mine would have ever broken (??). The gun was re-issued by Hammerli (who made the Trailside for Sig under another model name ... Xesse) and now has an excellent reputation.
Don't believe everything you read. Demand proof and make allowances for the one or two or even a few lemons that manage to get out of any factory. Otherwise you may be missing out on a real jewel like the S&W Model 39.
This is really just a commentary and not directed at you because you have S&W semi-autos and revolvers.
I have a Model-59 Smith&Wesson 9MM and it is one of my favorite guns of many but it never jams.That makes me like it even more.Guns that malfunction ,I take the loss and get rid of them.
Well I never had a Sigma , alot of friends did, they complained about alot of things mainly the trigger pull, now I have shot the Sigma and for me the trigger pull wasnt really an issue , sure it was long and hard (it had this little like click at the end,which was annoying but doable) , I actually liked the the way it shot , but true to your words LD , the first gens had problems and maybe even the seconds as well, by the time the guns were solid shooters the media had already trashed them , so now the Sigma is a Stigma !
Handguns Others and I have had good, bad and the ugly so here's my over view list of the best and the not so best.
The good;
Ruger redhawks & blackhawks, security six's & police service six, revolvers.
Ruger MkI & MkII 22cal pistols ( I expect nothing but the best with the rugers)
S&W revolvers M29, M58, M57 (awesome quality, but i won't feed it the stout rounds all the time)
Norinco 1911, AO 1911, SA GI mil spec 1911 (the norc & AO have been awesome but with the SA's its hit or miss on getting a good one)
CZ pistols CZ75, Cz83, Cz82's (never a problem with these at all)
The bad/ugly;
Colt python 357 cylinder out of time(brand new) common problem with colt revolvers "no QC"
Colt gov 1911 cycling problems(brand new) ditto QC
Colt Commander cycling problems(again brand new) ditto QC
Springfield armory 90 series 1911 stove piping(brand new) "extractor"
Any new gun can have problems and it doesn't matter what price or amount we pay it can happen with anyone. Do you feel lucky lately??
New or used?? Are we safer in finding a good used handgun. I have found brand new handguns still unshot in the used handgun case at my local dealers for the used handgun price. Look closely and bring a bore lite. Look at the bolt face were the bullet case hits when it feeds that will show if its been fired or not. It would surprise you on how many new handguns i find in the used case.
Right now if i was going to choose a new 1911 it would be;
1. Auto Ordnance army ww2 copy 1911a1 45acp
2. Springfield Armory Mil-Spec 1911a1 or the G.I. model(forged frame & slide +)
3. Ruger SR1911 in 45acp in stainless
Get a current production Colt 1911 and a Colt SAA. There are no finer production handguns on the market today in terms of fit, finish, QC and resale value
Well the new SIG 210 rivals the Colts in terms of fit, finsih and QC but SIG no makee revolvers
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