many houses

Discussion in 'Religious Discussions' started by old semperfi, Sep 25, 2012.

  1. my father died back in march of this year,he was two weeks short of 88.he was lucky as usual in as much as he died at home.he was fine one second and dead the next(no suffering).my mother just turned 84 this month and i think she will outlive me and my brothers and sisters.she prays that will not happen because she says she would not want to live longer than her children.moms a saint,she looked after my father for years when he had altzheimers.most of the time my father was not a good person.when we were at his funeral the sermon was about heaven and what we would find there.the minister stated that god has many mansions.this was read out of a passage of the mother and i discussed this and to me it states that there is room for many different religions in gods house and not that we will be in mansions.what do you think.sorry i can not tell you where in the new testiment he read from. ; old semperfi
  2. rosierita

    rosierita Active Member

    Mar 13, 2004
    South Carolina
    first, let me say... i'm sorry for your loss.

    i apologize in advance for my "tone", but you are wrong. you may be sincere, but you are sincerely wrong.

    this is 1 of the devil's tricks... convincing you that you can take 1 verse or a couple verses & justify what you want to believe.

    what that chapter also states is...

    you cannot link that with any other religion, sorry.

  3. sub-moa

    sub-moa Member

    Jan 25, 2012
    old semperfi, we share some similarities friend. I lost my Dad last year. Found him sitting in his favorite chair, just didn't wake up. Miss him a lot but thats the way to go when it's your time. I'm sorry for your loss. The passage you speak of is John 14 .2 King James version says "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you." I'm no Bible scholar but I always took it to mean these mansions were to be where we would dwell while we spend our eternity with God. Just my thoughts.
  4. i was always told that God is just and forgiving.i was brought up hell fire and brimstone babtist and when young i feared God.when your only five or six being told you will burn in hellfire for eternity scared me to death.i got older and a great deal more liberal in my thinking.i see God as a very understanding and forgiving God.i can not view him as someone who would punish others if they were of a different religion.they may have a different name for him but there is only me i think God has many names and as long as you truely beleive there will be no punishment. old semperfi
  5. dad2thebone

    dad2thebone New Member

    Jul 10, 2011
    Im sorry for your loss and will send a prayer your way. Both my parents have passed as well as my 2 brothers and my sister. I do know the meaning of loss. you brought back a memory from the king james i had forgotten. I was raised catholic but in age have become christian.God is understanding and forgiving , i do believe with all my heart and im sticking to it. oohraah brother
  6. ampaterry

    ampaterry *TFF Admin Staff Chaplain* Staff Member Supporting Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    West Tennessee
    Rosierita is exactly correct; her interpretation fully agrees with the Word of God.
    A bunch of whacko's trying to exterminate the Jews are not following God in any way, and if their direction continues throughout their life, they will only see God at the seat of judgement, and never again after that for eternity.

    God only made two covenants with humanity.

    1. The covenant with the Jews, OT style.
    2. The covenant with the Gentiles, NT style.

    Anyone who is outside of the first covenant by birth and outside of the second covenant by choice is lost.

    Now, there IS the case of those who died without being born under the first covenant and never hearing the Gospel of the second; that may be another issue entirely - -
  7. rosierita

    rosierita Active Member

    Mar 13, 2004
    South Carolina
    my best advice to you concerning your view of God is to get to know His character, who He is according to His Word & not the word of anyone else, churches included. (I have a serious problem with churches deviating from God's Word & trying to gain control over congregations with the use of fear.) what does God's Word say about His character & how He views you? Settle that 1st, then any thought you have (or that is planted into your mind by satan), compare it to the truth of God's Word.

    He is unselfish, sacrificing His own Son. He is so merciful. He is a God of forgiveness, & a God of incredible love, but He NEVER contradicts Himself.
    What does God's Word say about love?

    salvation is a gift that is freely given to us by a loving & merciful & faithful, Almighty God. you cannot earn it because its already been freely given to you. its yours to accept OR deny. ANYTHING contradicting this truth is satanic in nature, i dont care if the church's label is baptist, methodist, catholic, muslim, mormon, jehovah's witness, buddist, hindu, etc. if it does not line up with God's perfect Word, its a false doctrine & a satanic lie.

    in this life, there are 2 ways satan, who absolutely is your enemy, works against you... those 2 ways are... 1st he's going to try to keep you from a relationship with Father God (salvation in Christ Jesus), he will work in stealthy ways to keep you from the truth. the other way is, if he cannot keep you from salvation, he will work in your life to destroy your witness.

    i do not mean to knock churches, there are a lot of very good & sincere people in them, but they are not infallible. ALL OF THEM make mistakes.

    i hope that you'll consider the verses that i quoted for you. i hope that you'll commit them to memory & i hope that you'll refer back to them as you face your various life situations. if what you're thinking or what you're experiencing is in any way contradicting what God's Word actually says, those thoughts do not originate from God.

    having said that... God is also just. we have this side of eternity to choose salvation & then, the judgment.
  8. Yadkin

    Yadkin New Member

    One Lord, One faith, One baptism One God and Father Ephesians 4: 5-6

    Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the Will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 7: 21

    But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Matthew 15: 9
  9. Maine04657

    Maine04657 New Member

    Sep 13, 2012
    The main problem is it is a book. Words mean different things to different people. This is why even among the most fervent believers not two will agree on every passage.
  10. tcox4freedom

    tcox4freedom Well-Known Member

    I want you to understand it's is not Holy God that condemns. We condemn ourselves by refusing to accept God's provision for our salvation. Therefore, the "justness" of God dictates that we live throughout out eternity with the consequences of our choices.

    To accept Jesus is to accept eternal life in the presence of our loving FATHER. To deny Christ's sacrifice is condemning "ourself" to an eternity of torment separate from God.

    Last edited: Sep 26, 2012
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