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More Naval trivia....

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    polishshooter
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    What size main guns did a "4 Piper" DD carry? (Extra credit for how many...)

    What was an APD?

    Where did the Blimp get it's name?

    What did the Brits call Sonar?

    What kind of a craft was a Yippy?

    What kind of a craft was nicknamed a "Pallbearer" and why? (Hint...think Okinawa...)

    What was a K-gun?

    What US Submarine torpedoed itself?

    Who was Henderson Field named after?

    What was ABDA?


    Each question is worth 10 pts...




    We must make war as we must; not as we would like. - Field Marshal Kitchener, 1915

    17th FA Bn
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    1. Built with 4 x 4" + 1-3", for WW II service 6 x 3"
    2. Destroyer converted into a fast transport?
    3. Don't know.
    4. ASDAC
    5. Don't know.
    6. Don't know.
    7. Depth charge thrower/launcher.
    8. Used to know.
    9. Mr. Henderson?, Major Henderson USMC pilot killed attacking a Japanese Cruiser.
    10. A really god awful Swedish wannabe rock band? American, British, Dutch, Australian flotilla that got hit pretty bad by the Japanese. Was the Sullivan brother's cruiser Juno part of this force?


    polishshooter
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    Pretty good, 17th.

    I read a book on the 50 4-stackers we gave to England before the war, and never knew about a third of them had the 6-3 inchers...also never knew so many of them spent the war as port queens, not seeing action, they were REALLY leaky cans...but the ones that fought, fought well, even IF their fuel bunkers were always contaminated with sea water so much they rarely could hit over 25 knots except when they were new or fresh from dry dock...

    Yeah, APDs were "fast transports," made from four pipers that had two boilers removed and troop berths and cargo space put in their space...made for Raider use in the Pacific, but used extensively in the Solomons, especially around the 'canal early when they were about the only way to supply the Marines ashore when the Jap Navy and planes ruled the Slot...

    Its ASDIC, but close enough...

    Henderson got killed at Midway, I believe flying Wind Indicators against the Striking Force early...

    And ABDA is right on; BUT didn't the Juneau get it either at Savo or Cape Esperance? I'm pretty sure it was the early Solomons...I should know, but I forget, I used to live near Buffalo, and USS The Sullivans is at the Naval Park, been aboard a few times and they have the whole "Fighting Sullivans" story in pictures....


    HINTS...Think of a Yippy (or Yippee) as letters...

    And Pallbearers were ....well, think Picket DDs...

    The Sub? Think of what we ALL had to have our mothers buy us at the grocery store in the 60s after we saw it in space...

    Well, You got 6 right, and with extra credit for knowing BOTH models of 4 pipers, you passed...
    We must make war as we must; not as we would like. - Field Marshal Kitchener, 1915

    Xracer
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    A YP would be a harbor patrol craft.

    The U.S.S. Tang (SS-306) was sunk by one of her own torpedos in Oct. '44.

    HondoJohn6508
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    Most interesting!!! I remember reading "Submarine" by CMDR Edward L. Beach many, many years ago. My question is: The Tang was commanded by 'Mush' Morton when it was sunk by its own torpedo,wasn't it? That was really one great book!!!!!

    polishshooter
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    Well, didn't Mush Morton transfer to another boat, and his exec Dick O'Kane have her when one of her fish did the 360*?

    Mush Morton was lost in the Wahoo, wasn't he?

    Mush Morton was the first skipper to conn the sub while the exec looked through the 'scope, took readings, maneuvered and then fired the torpedoes...usually it was the other way around...him and O'kane were a great team, but after they split up, Morton got killed and O'Kane ended up as a POW after the Tang killed itself, if I remember right. The Tang surfaced in the middle of a convoy at night, sunk them all, then had the SAME setup the very next night and one of the first torpedoes it fired ran in a circle and sunk it, and only the hands on the bridge were pulled from the water when it sunk, by the Japs.

    Yeah, a YP was any auxilliary craft taken into service as a patrol boat, but some converted yachts and fishing boats even served as convoy escorts early in the Battle or the Atlantic when DDs, Corvettes, and Cutters were in short supply.


    We must make war as we must; not as we would like. - Field Marshal Kitchener, 1915

    Xracer
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    O'Kane was Mush Morton's exec on the Wahoo. He was promoted out of Wahoo just before it's last patrol and given his own boat, the Tang, when it was commissioned on 15 Oct. '43.

    Morton went down with the Wahoo on or about 11 Oct. '43.

    polishshooter
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    Bingo. I had it backwards. I read a book by a yeoman that was on all the patrols Wahoo made, but on the last one it stopped at Midway before it left, and he got orders to leave and go to a school he requested, radio or something, so he missed the last one...

    Give up on the "pallbearers?" It was a cheap shot, I only read it in one book, about what they called them anyways,when the Radar Picket DDs started taking all the hits by the Kamikazes off Okinawa, the Navy started sending out various landing craft to cruise the picket line to be around to pick up survivors....the DD crews started calling them the "Pallbearers..."

    The classic was at the height of the kamikaze attacks on them, one DD that made a big sign and hung it over the aft turret that said "CARRIERS THIS WAY" with a big arrow for the "benefit" of the Kamikazes...

    OK somebody elses turn, this is fun...
    We must make war as we must; not as we would like. - Field Marshal Kitchener, 1915

    jonkx
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    Was some alliance, no? In teh pacific?

    panglossV
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    Juneau went down during the night action (Nov 12? 1942) in which Dan Callahan was killed by a 14-inch shell that took San Francisco's superstructure clean off.

    Leading to the next day's actions, where Washington was possibly the only battleship to sink a battleship. Open to disagreement, because I'm thinking off the bottom of my head.

    BTW: Polish, you're right in a sense. All those battles were initially named for Savo Island.

    Xracer
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    Hi panglossV.....and welcome to TFF, and especially to the Military HistroyNuts Forum!

    These battles were also known as "The Battles of Ironbottom Sound". The last naval battle where a fleet commander ("Ching" Lee) crossed the enemy "T".

    17th FA Bn
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    At the battle of Surigao Straight, 24 & 25 October 1944 a U.S. Navy fleet of 6 battle ships plus supporting ships crossed the T of a Japanese force of 2 battle ships plus supporting ships. The Imperial Japanese Navy lost 2 battle ships, 1 heavy cruiser, and 3 destroyers sunk, as well as 1 heavy and 1 light cruiser damaged. The U.S. Navy lost only one P.T. boat sunk, 3 P.T. boats and 1 destroyer damaged. This unmitigated disaster for the Imperial Japanese Navy was the last battle ship against battle ship action ever.

    Five of the six U.S. battle ships had been sunk at Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941. They were raised and repaired and returned to action.

    Edited by: 17th FA Bn at: 3/5/02 10:19:40 pm

    polishshooter
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    Welcome, Pangloss?

    Didn't two admirals die in that fight? Callahan and Scott I think? 17th, Surigao straight was in the Battle of Leyte Gulf, off the Phillipines in October '44...

    We have a thread on BBs here somewhere, there were several actions where BBs sunk BBs, in fact there were actually more BB vs BB fights in WWII than there were Carrier vs Carrier, which is a little known fact...

    Bismarck was sunk by a BB, the "Nine Life" Pearl Harbor old timers sunk a battle cruiser that the Japs called a Battleship in Surigao Strait, and the Scharnhorst (called a BB after it's last refit no matter how hard OB yells that it was a Battle Cruiser!) was sunk by the Rodney...or was it George V, I forget. And I think an Italian (The Guilio maybe?) was sunk by the Brit BBs under Cunningham in the Mediterranean...I know at least that in that battle the never to be beat record of longest gunnery shot hit ever on a moving target on the high seas was set, something like 25,000 yds!

    Great post guys, keep it up!
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