Most Important US fighter of WWII

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  1. ysacres

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    polishshooter
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    (3/30/01 12:14:44 am)
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    I think I'm biased...
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    Xracer
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    (3/30/01 9:31:43 am)
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    In Europe.......The Hawker Hurricane. Slower but more numerous than the glamorous Spitfire, it was relegated to attacking the German bombers while the Spits took on the escorting fighters. It was the loss of hundreds of bombers and their crews that caused Goering to throw in the towel.

    Without air superiority over the Channel, the German invasion of Engand was impossible, and Britain became the staging base for the re-taking of Europe.

    In the Pacific......I agree. It wasn't fast, it wasn't pretty, but that stubby little product of the Grumman Iron Works got the job done when the chips were down.

    obelix2
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    (3/31/01 4:36:54 pm)
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    No, damnit. You have to vote for a Grumman, obviously. But what's wrong with the Hellcat?

    Xracer
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    (3/31/01 6:33:38 pm)
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    I certainly agree that the F6F was a far superior aircraft to the Wildcat (and probably the most underrated fighter of the war), but by the time it came online, the tide of the Pacific war had already turned......so historically speaking, I'll stick with the F4F.

    Also, I misread the title of this thread, so my pick of the Hurricane in the ETO makes no sense.....so my picks are:

    Europe: P-51
    Pacific: F4F

    Kdubya
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    (3/31/01 7:06:52 pm)
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    Since this is the most important US fighter -
    P-5l in Europe
    F4F in Pacific
    P-38 as my most favorite military airplane of all!
    Keep off the Ridgeline!!

    polishshooter
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    (3/31/01 7:32:04 pm)
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    I was tongue in cheek, but we did this before on GB.

    I don't qualify any plane that wasn't there from beginning to end, or at least close.

    You can make the case the BEST in the Pacific were the F4F and the P40. They were there during the rough times, went toe to toe and actually defeated the BEST Jap Naval and Army Air Forces pilots and the Zero before any of the FINE Hellcats, Corsairs, etc. came on the scene. (OK, the P-39 was there too, but...)

    The P-38 is one of my favorites too...Highest scoring Ace flew one. Wouldn't have needed the P-51 if those Allisons worked at 35,000 as good as at 15,000 or less....it was there for most of the war...

    In Europe, though, give me the Jug...(Think it's Gabreski that gives me my bias? ) Again, bigger tanks or better range, and the P-51 takes a back seat, too.)

    And the Mustang was great, I have no idea why I dump on it so...

    obelix2
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    (4/1/01 3:32:11 am)
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    If I ever got to own one, I guess it would be the Curtis P40 -- wild about those teeth. It could take a tremendous amount of punishment. But then it had to... Rational judgement: P38. I hate to agree with anyone about anything, but there you are.

    1952Sniper
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    (9/9/02 9:57:53 am)
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    I voted "other" for the P-51. Polishshooter, you are biased!

    The P-51 is probably the most recognized plane, and for good reason. It really was the first plane we had that could seriously compete with the Bf109 and the Fw190, to protect our bombers. The "Little Friends" really made a difference in the '17s reaching their targets, thus changing the pace of the war.

    I didn't say it was my favorite though. I like the old radials, like the F6F and of course, the F4U Corsair. And the all-time great plane, the P-47. That plane kicked a** and took names.

    LIKTOSHOOT
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    (9/9/02 11:18:26 am)
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    I dunno, what about the old wooden and cloth twin merlined skeeter. Fast, replaceble (stored) extra fire power...fitted by the nav/bomber. Fast and lots-o-firepower, long as it didn`t catch on fire. Could take a boatload of hits. Nah!, flying coffin. I`ll come up with a better one...............

    polishshooter
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    (9/10/02 11:34:57 pm)
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    Well, one of the reasons I only listed the Wildcat, is that it is the one of the few US plane to have kills on Japanese, German, French, and Italian first line fighters and bombers, as well as ships and submarines, was used as a fighter, Fighter Bomber, Dive Bomber, close support, anti-ship, ASW, Air Superiority, Escort, Scout in all theaters, from 1940 through to 1945...

    Shot down it's first German in 1940, in RAF service, and led one of the last carrier raids conducted in the European theater, in 45 in Norway, again in RAF service.

    Served on escort carriers until the end of the war, and was in air to air combat until VJ day!

    Actually was the plane that defeated the Zero, the Zero WAS technically outclassed by the F6F, Corsair, etc, but by the time they made it on the scene the only pilots the Japs had left to fly ANY fighters were mostly untrained "Turkeys..." All their GREAT pilots were dead or wounded...shot down MAINLY by F4Fs, and P40s...

    Gotta LOVE that Wildcat! Just thinking about it brings back images of those F4Fs and FM2s from the Taffy's making run after run after run even after being out of ammo or bombs or even depth charges on those BBs and cruisers at Leyte...while all the "Superior" Hellcats were hundreds of miles away on the wild goose chase with Halsey...

    (And there were some pilots that preferred the later FM-2 to the F6F...)


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    jonkx
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    (10/1/02 1:18:26 am)
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    Hmm. Gotta go with the P-40. It clawed out a toehold so to speak and put the enemy on the defensive both in the Pacific and then in the Med. Now as to the BEST gotta go with the F6F for the Pacific, and P47 in Europe.

    Most important Allied? No doubt, the Hawker Hurricane. Best Allied? Probably the Spitfire 14 or Mustang D.

    I also think that the P-63 is too often forgotten. Not used much by the US but it finally worked out a lot of the P-39's problems and was used to great affect in Russia.

    1952Sniper
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    Since you mentioned the P-39, I have to say I think it was underappreciated. Sure, it had a bad reputation for stalls and spins, but in the hands of the right pilot it was a deadly weapon. It was the first pursuit plane that was designed as a cannon first and a plane second. The theory behind its design was interesting. By placing the engine behind the pilot, they figured the center of gravity would be almost in line with the center of lift. This was supposed to mean quicker turns and more maneuverability. And it did it's job to some degree. It just couldn't be pushed to the same limits that other planes could that had the "engine-forward" design. But it was fast for its time and had a big gun right through the center of the prop spinner. That was just plain cool.
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    boondocker6
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    I vote for the P-47 Thunderbolt. Big ugly and as tough as hell.

    magnum74
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    (1/10/03 2:02:51 pm)
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    Im a plane buff myself...I lean toward the modern aircraft but I do have my favorites of WWII. For air superiority I choose the P-51 Mustang, hands down. For a fighter bomber, I choose the F-4U Corsair...for multi-role I choose the P-38 Lightning. Great subject guys!!!

    mustang7513
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    (1/26/03 10:05:40 pm)
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    P51 Mustang, one of the first with long escort capabilities to cover the bombers.
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    markthetiger
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    (1/27/03 7:53:01 pm)
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    hi all, new here... Found this site while doing reasearch on my newly acquired M1 Garand, which I just had to have after watching "Band of Brothers."

    I guess I've got to vote for the P.... P... uh... hell, most of the planes did what they were designed to do, so this is a tough one. I like the P51 myself, but the P47 did a lot more ground combat support in Europe.

    hmmm...

    Xracer
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    (2/11/03 10:02:12 am)
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    Hi Mark.....welcome to TFF.

    Hope you're a HistoryNut.....and hope you'll stick around and check out all of our other topics here.

    You don't have be an expert to have an opinion here......after all, look at that Polish guy!

    Bill
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    (2/16/03 7:48:11 pm)
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    1)
    Hellcat which has as far as I know has the best kill ratio in the war 18 to 1
    2) P 51 which significantly helped the security of B-17 bomber efforts in Germany.

    3) The P-47 which shot up more ground targets than any other fighter I know of in Europe.

    Good thing we had the Wildcat, it let us keep our head above water until the F6F showed up.
    Lot's of choices ....Take care, Bill
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    most important...hmmm...P51 of course. no mustang,no effective daylight bombing,and no air superiority. for cool factor...P47,F4F,Corsaire. former Marine...I love close air support!!!
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