Most Versitile Military Aircraft ever...

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    Xracer
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    OK, Guys & Gals.....what was the most versitile military aircraft ever......any nation, any era.

    Ju-88? C-47? F/A-18? Mosquito? F4? B-25? G4M? C-130? B-52? Beaufighter? .....Or ??????

    What's your choice.....and why?



    the real fredneck
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    what about the DC-3? wasn't just used by the military and was/is used worldwide for many purposes

    Xracer
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    Fred......DC-3 = C-47 (AKA "The Gooneybird")....certainly a very versitile aircraft.

    Good choice.......but why?

    17th FA Bn
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    P-47, one of the best prop. fighters of WW II, and the best close support plane of the war. Extremely tough. Planes hit in the engine with a 20mm round could make it bake to base.

    obelix2
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    Conceived as a light bomber, it was successful in that role as well as, let's see: a photo-reconnaissance plane, a high-speed transport, a fighter-bomber, a day fighter, a night fighter, a minelayer, an attack plane; there may be more. All this was aid by its range -- 1400 miles with drop tanks.

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    One of it's most important duties was as a pathfinder......it would go out ahead of the British night bombing raids and drop incendiary bombs on the target as an aiming point for the carpet boming.

    A very versitile aircraft........good one Obelix.

    Who's next?

    warpig883
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    Most versatile in my book is the C-47. They are still flying too.
    Don't mind me, I am a blithering idiot:)

    the real fredneck
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    'cause it could be used by so many folks for so many things not all of a war is dependent on the guys shooting

    polishshooter
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    That's a good one...

    How about the B-25, used as a medium, patrol. anti-shipping, fighter-bomber, gunship, interdiction, and "long range carrier strike bomber."

    Maybe the A-20...more sorties than any in the Pacific, doubled as a night-fighter.

    How about the Skyraider?

    The Mosquito is a good choice, too...

    The P-40? Everything from Air Superiority, to photo-recon, to Dive-bomber, to anti-tank....

    The DC-3 is a good choice, it hauled more than anything during WWII, Korea, and in Vietnam, a GUNSHIP.

    How about the A-4 Skyhawk?

    The F4 Phantom, now THERE'S a weapon, not many fighters excelled as a Land Based AND a carrier Air superiority fighter AND strike fighter...STILL "as good" as anything a potential enemy we could face today has. Still flown as "Wild Weasels" I think...

    Oh yeah, how about the F4U?

    Not many Axis planes were truly "versatile," except maybe the Ju88 or the DO 17 series...most pretty "specialized."

    Heck, maybe the PBY!!! Workhorse PB, antishipping, "Black Cat," torpedo bomber, supply, search and rescue...

    Too many choices, but is it me or do I see a trend? Most are AMERICAN designs...maybe because we like to experiment or modify stuff? Or maybe "overengineer" the basic platforms for more than what's ordered?

    You can't tell me designers EVER imagined 10 .50s in the nose of a B-25, or MINIGUNS in a C-47...much less torpedoes slung under PBYs, B-26s, or P-38s...
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    Have to give it to the Mosquito. Definitely the broadest range of uses.
    B-24 also used for anti-submarine patrols, cargo, passenger transport, and IIRC, Roosevelt's 'Air Force One' to Yalta Conference.
    And a nod to DC-3/C-47, certainly used for a few things, and cargo cargo cargo, all over the world, for 50 years, but it's about 'versatility', not 'most used'.

    Seems like many of our US types, fighters AND bombers ended up being used 2-3 ways, but Mosquito still bombs / carries / strafes / torpedos / finds / lights up the cake.

    Edited by: rayra at: 10/19/01 2:40:59 am

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    Don't know if the Mosquito was ever used as a torpedo bomber, Ray.....but the Beaufighter (Torbeau) was.

    It was also used as a nightfighter, bomber escort, light bomber, strafer, and anti-shipping fighter/bomber.

    I'm also surprised nobody's mentioned the Herkybird (C-130).

    C-130 Cargo
    C-130A-II Electronic reconnaissance
    CG-130A Drone launch
    JC-130A Missle tracker
    RC-130A Photo/recon
    TC-130A Crew trainer
    HC-130B Search/rescue
    KC-130B In-flight refueling
    C-130D Ski equipped for Arctic duty
    VC-130D Staff transport
    AC-130 Gunship
    HC-130E Aerospace rescue/recovery
    MC-130E Clandestine use
    WC-130E Weather recon
    C-130H-MP Maritime patrol
    HC-130H Aerospace re-entry tracking
    JHC-130H Aerial recovery of satellite data capsules
    RC-130S Hi-intensity lighting for night SAR missions
    EC-130V Radome for anti-drug interception missions......and lots more, but I'm getting tired of typing.

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    Yep, considering the short life span of the Misquito and the Beaufighters, havta go along with the ol' Herky, that's been flying for some 45 years now, in multiple roles. The C-47 is certainly a unique plane, with a longivity unmatched by any other.

    When mentioning fighter/bomber/recon - why hasn't anyone mentioned my favorite WWII plane, the P-38 Lightning? Fantastic plane with very loooong legs!
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    17th FA Bn
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    I think I'll change my vote, obelix has convinced me the mosquito was the most versatile. Plus any plane that could carry a 57mm anti-tank gun and be a fighter is pretty cool. One variant the Brits had carried a 57mm for the anti-tank, and anti-shipping roles.

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    Hey 17th....one version of the B-25 carried a 75mm, and the Herk Gunship carries a 105.....plus a dual mount 40 and lots of other goodies.

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    Have to agree with the others on the "gooneybird", it did everything and probably held the longest military usage of all,from WWII through Vietnam.
    cointoss2

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    Yeah, the "Flying Dump Truck," almost forgot about the 130...

    Don't forget the AC-130 "Combat Talon" "Assault Transport," and the fact that the FAE bombs, as well as the 15000 HE "Pallet Bombs" are delivered by a C, making it both a "Stategic" and "Tactical" bomber.

    And lest we forget, weren't the 130s used for "Ranch Hand?"

    Cropdusters...

    I have a special place in my heart for aircraft that may be flown into battle by pilots almost half the age of the airframe under them...



    You know, the BUFF 52 is pretty damn versatile too, if you look at how it's mission has evolved since the 1950s, and how we just keep upgrading the avionics, change the mission, and it just keeps on flying...

    Look at all the planes meant to "replace" it, from the B58, to the Valkyrie, to the FB-111 to the B-1...and it's STILL front line...
    We must make war as we must; not as we would like. - Field Marshal Kitchener, 1915

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    B52's are great, got an uncle used to fly'em same time I was over there.
    Remember one night waitin' on'em before a ground assault in the delta. Booger's fly so high you can't even hear'em!
    Only way we knew they were there was when the radia cracked-
    "on the way". Seemed forever before the stuff hit the target, when it did, beeeeeaaaauuutifuul!!!!

    berto
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    I read excerpts from a relatively recent history of Vietnam from a VC/NVA grunt perspective, and I remember one quote from an NVA veteran.

    It was translated to something like: "The only weapon of the Americans we truly feared was the B-52. One minute you heard nothing, maybe saw contrails way up there if it was a clear day, next you might hear a scream or whistle, then your world as you knew it disappeared. There was no time and nothing to do to react."

    I may not have the whole quote right, but I distinctly remember the "your world as you knew it disappeared..."
    We must make war as we must; not as we would like. - Field Marshal Kitchener, 1915

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    P-38 lightning. Used to shoot down Yamamoto because it was the only aircraft that had that kind of range, was capable of fighting through the fighter cover, and had the guns to do the job. I believe it faded into oblivion because it was so versatile, nobody quite knew what to do with it.
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