Muslim Brotherhood Warns U.S. Aid Cut May Affect Egypt’s Peace Treaty With Israel

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  1. jack404

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    (CNSNews.com) – A top Muslim Brotherhood official has warned that any cuts in U.S. aid to Egypt could affect Cairo’s peace treaty with Israel – the latest sign that Egypt’s emerging political forces intend to call Washington’s bluff over the diplomatic dispute triggered by a crackdown on non-governmental organizations.

    Egyptian judges have referred 16 Americans and 27 others linked to NGOs for trial, accusing them of using foreign funds to encourage disruptive protests. Among the targeted NGOs whose assets and funds have been seized are the U.S. government-funded International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute.

    On Capitol Hill, the chorus of senior lawmakers calling for aid to Egypt to be suspended over the affair is growing, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has warned that the funds could be in jeopardy.

    So far, the defiant response from Cairo has been attributed mostly to government figures with links to the deposed Mubarak regime, including the anti-Western minister for international cooperation, Fayza Abul-Naga. The military-appointed Prime Minister Kamal el-Ganzouri – who also served during the Mubarak era – told reporters last Wednesday that the authorities “won’t change course because of some aid.”

    But now the Muslim Brotherhood (MB), which won almost 50 percent of the seats in recent legislative elections and dominates parliamentary committees, is making its position clear, too.


    Any U.S. aid cut to Egypt, top MB lawmaker Essam el-Erian told the pan-Arabic al-Hayat newspaper, would violate the U.S.-brokered 1979 peace agreement with Israel.

    The Jerusalem Post quoted Erian as saying that if the U.S. cuts aid to Egypt, the MB would consider changing the terms of the peace treaty. He is warning that the U.S. should understand that “what was acceptable before the revolution is no longer.”

    Erian chairs the parliamentary foreign affairs committee and is deputy leader of the MB’s political wing, the Freedom and Justice Party (FJP).

    The FJP was an early critic of the crackdown on the NGOs (although it also said Egyptian NGOs should get their funding from Egyptians). But threats to cut U.S. aid appear to have rallied various factions behind the government, feeding into long-held suspicion of and hostility towards the West.

    “This is only the beginning of the anti-American populism/nationalism/Islamism we are going to be seeing in Egypt from now on,” Mideast expert Barry Rubin, director of the Global Research in International Affairs Center in Israel, wrote in a column Sunday.

    “What’s amazing is that nobody is pointing out that if an Egyptian government is willing to risk U.S. aid and have a confrontation on this small issue, what are they going to do regarding big issues?’ Rubin said. “What happens when the Egyptian government moves toward Islamism or helps Hamas fight Israel on some level? We have been told that fear of losing U.S. aid will constrain Egypt. But we are now seeing that this simply isn’t true.”

    Egyptians don’t want US aid

    Among the biggest uncertainties sparked by the toppling of Mubarak a year ago was the future of the peace treaty. After four wars involving the two neighbors – in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973 – the treaty negotiated at Camp David led to Israel handing back to Egypt the Sinai Peninsula, an area three times bigger than Israel itself, which it had captured in the 1967 Six Day War.

    Although never particularly popular in Egypt, the agreement kept the peace between the former foes for three decades and secured Egypt more than $1.3 billion in U.S. military and economic aid each year.

    Legislation signed into law last December ties the provision of $1.3 billion in military aid to Egypt in fiscal year 2012 to certification that the government in Cairo “is supporting the transition to civilian government including holding free and fair elections; implementing policies to protect freedom of expression, association, and religion, and due process of law.”

    Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee’s foreign operations subcommittee, inserted the language. He warned this month that the NGO clampdown would affect the certification requirements.

    Other lawmakers who have warned the aid is in jeopardy include House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.); Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas), who chairs the House Appropriations Committee’s foreign operations subcommittee; and Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) and Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).

    A Gallup poll, released last week, but conducted before the furor over the NGO prosecutions, found that a large majority of Egyptians – 71 percent – are opposed to U.S. aid.

    About half of the poll respondents said they supported Egypt receiving aid from international institutions, and 68 percent were in favor of aid from other Arab countries.

    James Lindsay, senior vice president of the Council on Foreign Relations, argued that while Americans would naturally be upset if the recipients of their hard earned money are ungrateful, “gratitude isn’t the primary objective of U.S. foreign aid”

    “Washington doles out aid primarily based on calculations about how to advance U.S. strategic interests. And the United States certainly has great interests at stake in how Egypt’s political transition plays out even if it doesn’t have a lot of influence over where it ends up.”

    Over the past year, Americans’ views of Egypt have deteriorated significantly. A Gallup poll a year ago found favorable ratings had dropped from 58 percent in 2010 to 40 percent a year later, with more Americans having a negative than a positive view of Egypt for the first time since Gallup began polling the issue in 1991.

    The trend was borne out in a survey by the Arab American Institute (AAI), released on Thursday, in which only 33 percent of respondents said their attitudes regarding Egypt were favorable, compared to 34 percent who said they viewed Egypt unfavorable light.

    The AAI said Egypt’s favorable ratings among Americans in polls since the 1990s had been much higher – between 55-65 percent.

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  2. Bobitis

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    Stop the aid and move our bases to Isreal and Kuwait.

    Park the USS John Stennis in the straight of Hormuz, and the USS Ronald Reagan in the Indian Ocean.

    Your move Bro...
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    Egypt will back out of the treaty with Israel, no doubt about it.
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    i thought they already had , supplied gaza (HAMAS) with rockets and missiles
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    Sounds like bribe money to me and our politicians are dumb enough to keep sending money to Egypt.
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    not to be rude , its not the first time

    after you acheived independance i think the US was spending about a third of its gross domestic profit on ransom and jizya to the islamic pirates who took US seamen for slaves to be sold and white women for other uses as slaves ...

    1/3rd...

    before Mr Jefferson and a few other folks said screw em and built a navy and founded the USMC

    no more jizya

    and the islamics promptly forgot how to sail far from shore , and headed for asia instead

    time for a repeat?
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    Let Isreal turn'em into a big litter box and save a lot of money! When they (Egypt) comes cryin back for more money give them 1/2 of what there getting now.
    ^^^^^^
    Probably why I'll never be President.
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    No one, in this country or any other, believes anything even remotely distant to any of these " rights " will happen there, ever.


    What? What was that, again?
    Are they saying we were a lot happier knowing Mobarak, as bad as he was, was in complete control? Yes, I think that's what we were saying.

    Now that he's gone, and the MBH is taking a firm hold, and extremist cult-like laws are being put in place In Egypt and the rest of the mid-east ( and Africa ), we find ourselves holding the short straw once again.

    Now, we're looking to arm the " rebels " in Syria. Who are they really? Does anyone really give a damn?

    All of the so-called oppressed people, now being freed, have been oppressed for a reason....They don't have the first clue how to go about realizing the slightest inkling of what freedom actually means.

    As a result, the organizers arrive on the scene ( we come in peace :D ). When the organizers are through organizing, the oppressed discover the real meaning of oppression. And they suddenly find themselves oppressed beyond their worse nightmare, and no hope in sight.
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    of course they have a hope

    they submit to allah give up one member of each family for the interfada to do as the caliph see fit with them

    suicide bomber training , sex worker for the shahid's whatever he says they do as they are now slaves of jihad and allah

    if they do this , pay zikat bow to the caliph and allah and his prophet they can be part of the winning team

    if they dont ,

    it gets a tad rough eh

    the entire family can be declared sarmit and made slaves with the only way out as a martyr ..

    each one of them

    as that too is part of the sharia
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    ( wiktionary )

    Somebody's math is screwed up, somewhere. It seems to me, they are holding their hands ( guns ) out for a bit more than 1/10th.
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    Zikat is their version of the tithe and yes they do expect the whole world in return ..

    with us footing the bill and working for them as slaves and paying Jizya
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    Just now heard on Fox...Al-Qaeda, according to our intelligence agencies, are behind the rash of bombings in Syria. The US is concerned, because we don't really know who is really behind the uprisings......Duh.
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    hahahahahahahahqaha

    read the al queda in syria blog

    they know who's doing it
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    glens67 and I see this the same way .........
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    I think that Egypt will definitely pull out of the treaty and Egypt and Iran will hit Israel at the same time.
    Then they will discover Israel hasn't forgotten a trick since 1967 and invented some new ones. If Iran delivers a nuke to Israel, all bets are off and many spots in the Middle East will glow at midnight.
    And gas will be $20 a gallon, because of our spineless presidents giving in to the greenie weenies over the caribou. Time to buy that electric moped I can power from solar cells. Either that or a horse and some alfalfa seed.
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    There is no love lost between Iran and Egypt.

    Egyptians are predominately Sunni..Iran is Shi'a. I think a fight would break among them just sitting down at a table to talk about it.
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    workin on that ...
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