Naval Trivia......

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    Xracer
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    What is the oldest commissioned ship in the world?

    What is the oldest commissioned ship still afloat?

    What is the oldest commissioned ship in the U.S. Navy?

    What is the only U.S. Battleship still in commission?

    What does this mean: "The sun is over the yardarm, splice the main brace."

    And for you civilians, what does "POSH" mean?

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    answer for the first three is the USS Constitution, no?

    Thought all BB were decommisioned, but just remembered Arizona

    Think the yardarm quote is a reference to it being late enough in the day to have a drink of alcohol?

    Posh something to do with things being 'squared away' or 'excellent'?



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    Yeah, that was almost too easy..."Old Ironsides" and the 'Zona....

    But the oldest commissioned ship in the world? Hmmm....the HMS Victory? Damn, when was Trafalgar???? My date rememory gene is acting up again...

    Ironically, I'm rereading a WEB Griffin book in "The Corps" series, and not an hour ago I read a passage where McArthur is meeting a representative of Nimitz in Brisbane and he says "...its almost 1700, what do you naval officers say about 'splicing the main brace?"...


    And sends for the scotch.....
    We must make war as we must; not as we would like. - Field Marshal Kitchener, 1915

    Xracer
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    Damn.....you guys are too good.

    Oldest commissioned ship: HMS Victory....."Her keel was laid down in Chatham on 23 July 1759 and she was launched on 7 May 1765 but was not commissioned until 1778. This long period of weathering meant that the hull timbers were well seasoned, which is probably the main reason why she has survived so long."

    The Battle of Trafalgar was on Oct. 21, 1805.

    The oldest commissioned ship afloat, and the oldest commissioned U.S. Ship: U.S.S. Constitution, launched Oct.21, 1797, commissioned March, 1798.

    Once a year, she's towed out into Boston Harbor and turned around so she'll weather evenly on both sides.

    BTW, the CO of one of my ships (U.S.S. Nipmuc (ATF-157)).....his previous duty was as CO of the Constitution.

    Yep.....the Arizona has never been struck off the books as a Commissioned U.S. Naval Ship.

    "The sun is over the yardarm" = after 1700 hours (5:00 PM to you landlubbers).
    "Splice the main brace" = to have a drink (of liquor, now forbidden on US Navy ships...wink, wink).

    Nope on POSH.....I think you're thinking of "Shipshape and Bristol fashion".

    Ya done good, guys....but how about "POSH"? No fair looking it up. Here's a hint....there was a song in the movie "Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang" that explains the meaning of the term.








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    Oldest commissioned ship: HMS Victory....."Her keel was laid down in Chatham on 23 July 1759 and she was launched on 7 May 1765 but was not commissioned until 1778. This long period of weathering meant that the hull timbers were well seasoned, which is probably the main reason why she has survived so long."
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    19 frickin' years!!! to build a ship?!? WOW.

    Still no clue on 'posh'

    Xracer
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    Well, rayra.....and all others. POSH is not a naval term, but it WAS a seagoing one.

    Back in the middle of the 19th century, a large number of Brits were coming and going between the British Isles and India via sea....mostly on the Pacific & Orient Line. It was a long voyage, and a brutally hot one. The choice (and most expensive) cabins were on the side of the ship that was in the shade from the afternoon sun. Port Out....Starboard Home.....so the expensive tickets were stamped P.O.S.H.

    There was a song "The POSH Life for Me" sung by Lionel Jeffries in the Disney film "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang".

    Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was a fictional car that was able to do wonderous things.....but.......

    POLISH! There was a legendary REAL race car called "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang"....built by a Polish Count!
    www.brooklands.org.uk/sto...STORY5.HTM

    If only the Polish Calvary could've had a few of these!

    polishshooter
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    Well, since his name wasn't one of the 7 Polish magnate names, the "Polish Count" wasn't rich unless his "American Mother" came with the cash...

    There was a "middle" level Polish Nobility for about 4 centuries up til 1919, who had titles, but not land or money, totally indebted to one of the magnates, kinda like managers of the peasants, that belonged to the magnate.

    The kids of these managers were all called "Counts."

    And they were all pretty poor "playboys," who usually only had any future in the Army, in the 18th and 19th Centuries, that meant Prussian, Russian, Austro-Hungarian, earlier it was French...and as soldiers-of-fortune...

    Kosciusko and Pulaski were "Polish Counts" too...

    If they had ANY money, it was through marriage to a foriegner...

    And in the late 1800s and early 1900s, it became fashionable for "newly rich" (I hate spelling in French) Americans, usually entrepeneurs ( ) who struck it suddenly rich and found "society," to take their unmarried daughters to Poland for a summer where they hoped to marry them off to a "Count" or any of the many other minor landless nobility so they would have a title and be the talk of the social circles back home...

    Michener does a good job with this theme in his book "Poland..."

    It fit as I was reading that, son of a "Rich Polish Count and an American Mother..." And that he would be a race car driver, kinda daredevil, all b@lls no brains, pretty typical for a rich carefree Polak...
    We must make war as we must; not as we would like. - Field Marshal Kitchener, 1915

    Xracer
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    Well....."all b@lls and no brains" applied to almost everybody who raced in those days....especially at Brooklands! Huge multi-hundred horspower engines, stuffed into chassis more flexible than the suspensions, and very marginal mechanical brakes, sitting on four skinny tires.....and drivers of all nationalities participated....proving that you don't have to be Polish to be a nut case!
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