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Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by Jamey1985, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. Jamey1985

    Jamey1985 New Member

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    New here hi all, just found this gun and know nothing about it any info would be appreciated.gun is marked harrington and richardson arms company worcester mass pat oct 4 87 pat april 2,95 pat april 7,96
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    Welcome to the Forum Jamey !

    the H & R experts will be along shortly ,

    I've moved your post to here as it will get the attention it needs here better , and if i may suggest
    if you can , photos help a lot to pin down model , condition and safety of the weapon

    Cheers
  3. Jim Hauff

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    Jamey,
    Welcome to the wonderful world of H&R firearms:
    With that set of patent dates - You have a 1st Model PREMIER 3rd Variation made between 1897-98. It is a black powder model, small frame, auto ejecting, either 7 x .22 long or 5 x .32 S&W (rare chance it is .32 rim fire). Tell me a bit more about it and I can tell you a bit more about value:
    barrel length: 3, 4, 5 or 6"
    finish: Nickel or blue (plating on trigger guard or blued?)
    caliber: .22 or .32
    grip panels: black, hard rubber, Mother-of-pearl, walnut, Ivory???

    The above ID is based solely upon the accuracy of the info presented - I've been fooled before.:eek:
    The pic below represents a very early in production 1st Model 1st Variation in kind of crappy condition - but one of few examples I've come across. Note the Nickel plated trigger guard.

    IMG_1926_2.jpg
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    Jamey1985 New Member

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    At work right now can't get pictures for you till later but I do have the serial number on hand it is 016843
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    Looks just like the one in the above picture but much cleaner didn't know it was that old so I cleaned it up really good when I got it
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    Jamey,
    The 'O' (OHHH not Zero) prefix indicates your piece was made between sometime in 1898 and 1900. It should have a blued trigger guard - if Nickel plated.
    Waiting for more info and possibly a picture to give you an idea of the value.
    NOTE: depending upon the amount and kind of "cleaning" you performed - the collector value may or may not have been affected. In any case - RETAIL value of these guns rarely exceeds $200.
    Here's a pic of one with the 'O' prefix - note that the variation numbers in the pic. caption may not be correct - as I took these pics early in the research stage and variations at that time were not well defined - more pieces - more definition.
    IMG_1929_3.jpg
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