New Brass, .243 Cracked neck

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  1. soundguy

    soundguy Well-Known Member

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    hmm.. LDb and lee stuff... I don't forsee this happening.. :)
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    I used to blow glass as part of my work; nothing artsy--I'd call it "scientific glass-blowing". I also had to use a device called a "Pyrometer" that was used to precisely heat an object to a specific temperature. What was fascinating is the human eye can hit the temperature needed without one, once you have seen the color you are trying to achieve. JLA is correct in his procedure 'though I perform the operation slightly differently. The net result is properly annealed cases that produce more consistent neck tension and more accurate ammunition, with longer case life.

    There are a myriad of accuracy techniques that can be used in crafting your handloads that frankly don't benefit someone shooting a production rifle. Annealing cases DO provide benefits to the common handloader which I have demonstrated to my own satisfaction. I would not waste my time on pistol or "plinking" ammo. This is for someone who feels they can derive an improvement in accuracy in their centerfire rifle loads from the bench.
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    soundguy:

    What? You doubt I would buy or own anything LEE? Well, you are partially right but......

    There are a couple of caliber dies sets, that I use so infrequently and whose cost by anyone else is nearly that of a custom die set, that I have bought in the last few years. I also have bought many of the RIFLE version (not the pistol version!) of the LEE Factory Crimp Dies because it is a very unique and a good design. I don't like the materials choice by LEE as they have been known to gall (similar metal rubbing against each other under a heavy load gall) but the whole design concept is so good I just have to use them. I put up with the galling by maintaining them more than should be necessary.

    But the rest of the LEE stuff is junk, in my opinion. And Lee himself is so very arrogant (just read his book and you will discover that no one else knows how to design reloading tools) that he puts me completely off.

    It is a big world out there and we all get to choose our own fate, mostly and certainly for reloading tools. I just choose mostly not to use LEE stuff and I have loudly told anyone that would listen why.

    LDBennett
  4. JLA

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    Yeah.. i think hes afraid of fire.
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    i've just seen too many posts stating his disgust for anything lee.. etc...

    My guess is he has way more than plenty+ technical skill for the annealing..
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    I guess I must be afraid of fire as I don't cast bullets either...been there, done that...waste of time.

    So LEE sucks

    Casting sucks

    Annealing sucks

    You guys got me figured out. :)

    LDBennett
  7. soundguy

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    which is why i don't reload shotgun shells even though I have a mec in the garage and hulls, shot, and primers setting in my brothers shed.

    way too cheap to buy shells premade..
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    Opps, forgot....

    Shotgun reloading sucks (use to but not anymore)

    LDBennett
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    just too economical to buy em at the store by the case.. can't hardly save anything relaoding.. unless maybee if I cast my own shot
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    does annealing suck????

    Nope.... it softens !
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    Try finding 12 gauge dove shells loaded with #9 or #10 shot. That is why I hand load my own shells. I don't do it to save money. If you were to dove hunt or shoot skeet with shells loaded with #10 shot, you would never buy preloaded shells from a store again.
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    The same thing I just wrote in the post above this goes for you to, LD.
  13. soundguy

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    i usedto birdhunt.. but not anymore. laws for bird hunting just keep getting thicker and thicker.

    I do clay pigeons alot.. #7 has never let me down.. just have to hit what you are aiming at... and I now pretty much do it in 20g with a light 20 browning.. took afew shots to adjust.. but my shoulder is much happier for it.
  14. JLA

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    I like #12 shot. Its incredibly hard to find. but I did find 2 25# bags at a local range shop. I use it to load my 'waspnest' loads.. Yes, i use a 12 ga, loaded with #12 trap loads to shot down Wasp nests in the barn from a safe distance.. Its more fun than a can of hornet spray and doesnt really damage the barn.. much.. ;)
  15. soundguy

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    ..much..

    :)

    too funny!
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    It just makes tiny holes in the rafters. #12 is tiny shot.
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