New guy -- old unknown double gun

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by john_bud, May 14, 2011.

  1. john_bud

    john_bud Member

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    May 13, 2011
    Hi,

    New guy here. I've been trying to determine what the heck it is my dad brought back from Germany after WW2. I did search the forum but didn't find anything like it. It's a double gun, rifle on the right and shotgun on the left that uses cartridges but has no firing pins. It has double top striking hammers that are flat with a step and the top where they strike is flat with a slight recess on the barrel side and a channel in the face of the barrels. The gun is beautifully made - obviously from a master craftsman with tons of detail. The only words on it are on the center band between the barrels (picture). Any help in identifying the gun would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks, jb

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    On edit: I forgot to mention that the parts do have a serial number. But it's a single digit!
     
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  2. hrf

    hrf Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2008
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  3. john_bud

    john_bud Member

    55
    May 13, 2011
    Pinfire? I just googled it up -- what a unique method of firing a round off!

    Also just double checked under the barrels. No proof marks, no caliber, nothing except for the serial number that is on each part (and a single digit at that!)

    Thanks for the info, I try to contact them
     
  4. RJay

    RJay Well-Known Member

    Feb 22, 2004
    Goodyear, Arizona
    :D And that's why you can't locate the firing pins:D
     
  5. john_bud

    john_bud Member

    55
    May 13, 2011
    Yeah, I knew there was an explanation, but dog-gone if I could figure it out without help from here!:D


    lefaucheux 54, thanks for the links. It's good to see similar pieces. Also interesting to see the dates in the 1840's and 1850's! Too bad they don't include estimates of value.
     
  6. Jim K

    Jim K New Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    There may be city or guild proof marks, but the gun antedates the 1891 German national proof laws.

    Jim
     
  7. lefaucheux 54

    lefaucheux 54 Member

    121
    Sep 16, 2008
    Hello ,
    It's part of my collection , they aren't for sale.
    ...gonna try to translate some of theme.
    Greetings from Normandy in France
    LF
     
  8. lefaucheux 54

    lefaucheux 54 Member

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    Sep 16, 2008
  9. flintlock

    flintlock Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2007
    Upstate NY
    That's a very nice old drilling. Birds to boar all in one hunting trip!
     
  10. hrf

    hrf Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    No drilling shown (Drillings have three barrels)
     
  11. Hawg

    Hawg Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2011
    Unfortunately there's not much collector interest in pinfires.
     
  12. lefaucheux 54

    lefaucheux 54 Member

    121
    Sep 16, 2008

    Why ??
     
  13. Hawg

    Hawg Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2011
    That I don't know.
     
  14. lefaucheux 54

    lefaucheux 54 Member

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    Sep 16, 2008
    Hello John Bud
    Can you show us some pictures of what is marked under the barrels and elsewhere on the rifle.
    Bockwordt in Olendburg isn't mentionned in my books ....
    Perhaps only the seller.
    If you show us the proofmark I can eventuelly tel you the or période of makin , the country and with a little chance the gunsmidt how made it ....

    Thanks
    LF
     
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