New guy -- old unknown double gun

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by john_bud, May 14, 2011.

  1. chuck moek

    chuck moek New Member

    Oct 29, 2012
    Hi I just came across a similar gun. Its a 20 gauge muzzleloader I believe.It looks almost the same. What did you find on it and what is the value.
  2. rhmc24

    rhmc24 Member

    Dec 1, 2010
    Ardmore, OK
    Platine = Lockplate

    I'm not much of a pinfire-ophile but I like this one as an example of its type and workmanship.

    Comment --- when I was in France 1940s -'70s (off and on) pinfire ammo was available in gunshops & pinfire shotguns (obviously) in use by farmers and other rural folk.
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2012
  3. Buffalochip

    Buffalochip Active Member

    Oct 22, 2008
    For the same reason many cartridge guns draw little collector interest--rounds are obsolete, next to impossible to find, and very expensive when you do find them.
  4. BullShoot

    BullShoot New Member

    May 9, 2010
    missouri ozarks
    Originally Posted by Hawg
    Unfortunately there's not much collector interest in pinfires.

    Originally Posted by lefaucheux 54
    Why ??

    I'll add another view. Collectors of antique firearms are historians at heart. Here in the U.S. we have virtually no history of pinfires. There were some Lefaucheux imported in the time of our war between the States- but other than that, pinfires were just not a significant part of our history. Perhaps a combination of forces were at work to create this situation.
    1.) Pin fire ammunition was somewhat scarce and had to be imported.
    2,) Reloading was thought to be too difficult if not impossible.
    3.) The war had led to a great many experimental ignition systems which competed for attention,
    and, most likely,
    4.) The post-war ready availability of large caliber rimfire, and in time, centerfire cartridges and ammunition overwhelmed the pinfire concept in this country.

    The firearm pictured is very attractive and, in my personal opinion, collectible BUT. lacking the historical connection, it would sell here in the US to a quite limited buyer market and probably at a price far below it's realistic value in Europe.
  5. Jim K

    Jim K New Member

    Dec 6, 2009
    FWIW, the German word for a double barrel gun is "Zwilling" (twin), but my German is not good enough to know if there is a special term for a shotgun/rifle combination double.

  6. hrf

    hrf Well-Known Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    The 1911 Adolph Frank catalog called them 'B├╝chsflinten'
  7. Iron Eagle

    Iron Eagle Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2012
    Beautiful gun. Are those barrels Damascus?
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