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Nobel Peace Prize

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by OklahomaBrian, Oct 10, 2009.

  1. OklahomaBrian

    OklahomaBrian New Member

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    What do you guys and gals think about this?

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    well i kinda do feel like one of the reasons he is getting it was because he is the first black president but im not sure what that has to do with peace..
  3. dge479

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    They gave it to Arafat, Carter, Gore so I think it shows how irrelevent the award has become; to nominate someone that is in office 13 days, was a Jr senator who voted present most of the time, needs a teleprompter to tell him what to say and was the comunity leader to arguably one of the most voilent cities in the nation. Yep great research
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    The next one might as well be awarded randomly in a box of Cracker Jacks. That's about how much credibility the thing has anymore.
  5. Marlin

    Marlin *TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor*

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    Here is an interesting piece from today's American Vision Newsletter. Sorta confirms the interference of the Nobel folks in the internal affairs of our Great Republic. I still wish that they would mind their own business.

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    Nobel's Stockholm Syndrome

    Jerry Bowyer
    Oct 09, 2009

    It was because of a woman named Bertha Kinsky. She was a pacifist and a free-thinker (which means anti-religious). He fell in love with her, and they married, but she left him. He was wealthy, but not intellectually respected. He inherited his father's industrial business, which was, horror of horrors, an arms manufacturer. He was not a college graduate, but he learned chemistry anyway and developed dynamite, and became one of the wealthiest men in the world. He went on to write poems and anti-Christian plays, but they never respected him. She never really respected him. Alfred Nobel had money, but not status.

    Then came an erroneous news report that he had died. Nobel had an experience that few ever get: he read his own obituary. It was harsh, referring to him as a merchant of death. Didn't they know what dynamite was mainly used for? Roads, bridges, tunnels. Dynamite brought people together when giant mountains of stone kept them apart. But that never was enough for the intellectuals, the journal people, Bertha's kind of people. Alfred Nobel, who had used his mind to create something of much greater value than all of the free-thinking playwrights and revolutionary poets, was unhappy. He wanted them to love him; he wanted her to love him. He wanted a glowing obituary.

    His beloved Bertha, with whom he still corresponded long after their divorce, had an idea: Alfred could use his money to create a prize. People who work for peace, like Bertha's friends, would get money and acclaim for their efforts.

    So he gave much of his fortune to the creation of a prize that would give money to exactly the type of people who had held him at arms length. He tried to buy their love. He tried to buy her love. He gave the authority to confer the prize to the government of Norway (which at the time was under the same crown as Sweden).

    He got his glowing obituary. He didn't get the girl. The world got dynamite and was crisscrossed with train tracks and roads and bridges. Mountains became temporary impediments, rather than permanent dividers. The backs of millions of laborers were saved by this useful chemical compound. And yes, sometimes dynamite was used as a weapon.

    But the prize has been used as a weapon, too. A Nobel to Carter, a Nobel to Gore, a Nobel to Obama. It appears that the parliament of Norway does not like George W. Bush very much. Carter was given a prize for negotiating a nuclear non-proliferation agreement with North Korea that was violated almost immediately. Gore's came just before his global warming hypothesis began to unravel among serious scientists and practically anyone else with a thermometer. Obama got one, well, just for being Obama. Or, more to the point, for not being Bush.

    And let's not forget Arafat. Alfred Nobel tried to buy atonement from the intellectual world for the 'sin' of creating an explosive. But in 1994, in its finite wisdom, the Nobel committee bestowed his prize on the greatest recruiter of suicide bombers in history.

    Mr. Bowyer is the chairman of Bowyer Media, a Pennsylvania-based radio and television production company, and a CNBC contributor.
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    Agree.

    I don't think he is a 'black president', rather more of a 'mulatto' president.
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    I dunno about affirmative action, but the award does seem a tad premature.
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    That would be a "high Yellow"
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    Here's another take on the interference in our internal affairs by the Nobel idiots. It is from the TownHall.com daily Newsletter.

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    The Nobel Prize to Obama: Europe's Bid to Re-Colonize America

    Dick Morris and Eileen McGann
    October 10, 2009

    Whether it was rewarding Jimmy Carter for criticizing the Iraq War or supporting Al Gore in his crusade against global warming, the Norwegian Parliament -- which chooses the winners of the Nobel Peace Prize -- has sought to use the award as a political tool to influence American politics. Its prestige and moral power make the prize a potent weapon with which to help steer the direction of the colossus beyond the seas that controls a quarter of the world's economy and most of its military power.

    Now, the Norwegians have weighed in to support Barack Obama in his bid to reshape America so it looks more like, well, Norway -- or at least like Europe.

    European socialism cannot succeed without conquering the United States. If the European Union has high taxes and the U.S. keeps its levies low, business and brains will flow to America. If the EU's labor standards require long vacations and high benefits and proscribe layoffs, and ours do not, employers will migrate across the ocean to do their business in the States.

    If the Old World curbs ambition by taxation, regulation and social opprobrium, the ambitious will flock to the New World, as they have done for four hundred years.

    So, Vladimir Lenin was right. Socialism cannot exist in just one country -- or one continent. It must dominate worldwide, or wealth and power will flow to those who remain committed to the free market. Europe realizes this reality, and it makes Obama's election as president of the United States all the more welcome.

    The Nobel Prize is really Obama's payback for disciplining the unruly United States and taming it to be a member of the European family of nations.

    Europe wants to reverse the American Revolution and re-colonize us, and it sees in Obama a kindred spirit willing to do its bidding.

    Does the United States let its entrepreneurs run wild, coming up with fanciful new ideas and making billions from them? Obama will regulate and subdue business just like they do in Europe. Do U.S. businesses compete by slashing prices, aggressively pursuing markets and jockeying for market share? Obama will make them behave themselves and stay in line, just like European companies do. Do Americans work hard and push aggressively to make as much money as they can? Obama will raise taxes, emphasize community values and narcotize their ambition by offering government largesse.

    And does the United States still believe in a sloppy, contrarian democracy in which ordinary people can directly affect their government, states have powers and courts can reel in executive authority? Obama will use his rubber stamp majority in Congress to pass new laws regardless of public opinion and make us obey.

    In foreign policy, is the United States still willing to stand up, alone if necessary, to protect human rights in Bosnia, in Iraq and in Afghanistan? Obama will curb this unruly independence and mold it within the fabric of appeasement that has dominated Europe for the past half a century.

    All this heavy lifting, this conversion of America into a European state, deserves a reward. And what is a more fitting one to give Obama than the Nobel Peace Prize? He obviously doesn't deserve the award for economics or, given his health care ideas, for medicine. But the Peace Prize expresses Europe's longing: to take back the nation its overly ambitious and uppity children founded.

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    This is what the Euro Elite want the U.S. to be like, an Obama-nation. He might as well be president of France or Sweden. Until Obama came, we looked like the bullies of the world, bombing and invading. Obama's someone Europe can relate to. It's like they're crossing their fingers and hoping he becomes Sarkozy and turns the US into France or Norway. TJ
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    Here's my contribution:

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    That's to shake the (invisible) little person's hand. Perhaps this is how he won it!?! TJ
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    As I understand it, Obama made a speech stating that he hadn't at this time done enough to earn the prize, where others had worked for years to be eligible.

    In fact, Obama hasn't done anything to earn it

    Which brings up the question. With his EGO, why did he make the statement?
    Was it to strike back for NOT getting the Olympics in Chicago?
  15. Bobitis

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    Why didn't he decline the award if he admitted he's not worthy of it?
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