NRA - Now I'm really confused

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by Bobitis, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. Bobitis

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  2. armedandsafe

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    About what I'd expect from this yellow rag.

    Pops
  3. Bobitis

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    "Action on a bill in Congress that aims to shine more light on such spending stalled after top House Democrats agreed to exempt the powerful National Rifle Association and other large non-profits from new disclosure rules".

    Why would 'top democrats' agree to exempt the NRA?

    "The NRA, which has lobbied aggressively against the bill, remains opposed, despite the exemption".

    Sorry, but my head is spinning like Linda Blairs in the Excorsist. The NRA lobbied against the bill? You mean until they became exempt? Then it's stand by the sidelines and wait for the outcome. Is that what the NRA did?

    "All restriction on political speech is repugnant," Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the gun owners' group, told USA TODAY.

    "Am I happy that the NRA's tongue is not cut for the 2010 ... elections? Absolutely," he said. "Do we still think this bill is unconstitutional? Absolutely."

    So let me try to wrap my brain around this. All help is welcome.

    Mr. LaPierre was against the bill until he got voted into the club. At that point, he took a mulligan. When he got his ego handed to him, he went back to "All restriction on political speech is repugnant"?

    I never took a critical thinking class in college. Being an engineer oriented type, most of them were based on science and logic. Am I missing something here? Am I reading too much into his comments? Am I to quick to condemn?

    I've no problem being corrected if I'm wrong. My ego won't object, and I'll gladly admit my ignorance.

    Am I being overly critical?

    Thanks,
    Bob.
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    Yup, that about sums it up.
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    Nope, I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head, Bob. Niiiiiiice.
  6. Bobitis

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    Thanks for the feedback. For a while there I truly was confused.
    Most of what I've read is like trying to wade through a voters pamphlet. Worthless crap is interjected, and words are written and twisted to the point you have no Idea what's being said.

    What happened to using plain ol English? If I can't understand it, a good 85% of the population won't either.:mad: I don't watch MSM and prefer to read. I believe that may be the problem. Most folks who bother to read a bill won't be able to understand it. So they rely on soundbites instead. Free always sounds better than 'your ride is over'. We're fighting for you is better than 'if you contribute to my cause'.

    I was so stoopified, I didn't know what to think.

    KISS!:mad:

    Thanks again.:)
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    No problem, really. Just "politics as usual" inside the Beltway. The Dems thought to "pull the teeth" of the NRA, plus gaining the added bonus of casting them in a bad light with the public, (and its membership), for "accepting" the exemption. Its an old gambit.

    IOW, a lot of fuss'n feathers but not much substance......Which is pretty much the hallmark of the Obama Administration and this Congress..... >MW
  8. Bobitis

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    And the NRA capitulated.

    To me, that speaks volumes about their motives.

    Politics as usual as you say......
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    Hey Bob,

    I think of politics in general with the Second Law of Thermodynamics in mind: Everything goes from a more complex state of being to a less complex state. Meaning, everything is breaking down, slowly dieing, in our bodies as we age and our country too.

    The NRA, IMHO, is also devolving into just another political entity who's own self interest is guiding its decisions in this stage of its life. Kind of like the Roman Empire the died because of it's decadency and moral decline. America has lost it's moral compass and we are heading down a rabbit hole, fast.
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    From what I understand this bill is pretty much dead on arrival anyway....But I am disapointed in the NRA position, regarding the first amendment. They should realize that without the first amendment, all the other amendments over time become meaningless. I, and I am sure many other members have chimed in to them about this.

    Regards, Kirk
  11. armedandsafe

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    Perhaps they are lying? Then they have been lying for over a century, because this is what the NRA has always been: a SINGLE INTERST ADVOCATE. The Second Amendment is what we pay them to support and protect.

    Now, carry on with your pre-formed opinions that every organization to which you belong must do what you want and ONLY what you want.

    Pops
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    wait, what?
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    I have read everything posted on this one, and I'm lost! It would appear that some of you think that the NRA just indorsed a bill that is in violation of the Constitution. Am I correct in this?
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    I too have read everything that has been posted, and I'm still a bit confussed on it all? Ive read and re-read...not sure about this.
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    It appears to me that the NRA was opposed to this legislation form the first, and is still opposed to it, no matter that the Demoncrats wanted to exempt them in order to get their OK on this one.
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    That's excatly what the heck I was thinking as well Carver!
    But "is" they, or "aint" they...ya know.
  17. armedandsafe

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    No they have not endorsed the bill. They have decided to not spend our money in actively fighting it at this time. They have decided to spend that money on fighting bills and activities which directly endanger the 2nd.

    Pops
  18. Bobitis

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    I guess the problem I have lies in the fact that they didn't say 'screw you and your exemption'. In my mind, they sold me out, and I'm a member. I want the NRA to fight for the 2nd for ALL of us. Not just the members.

    The way I read it is that they fought from the beginning. Good on them. Then when the exemption came (based on Democrat support), they sat idle. At this time they had nothing to lose in the battle. It's a win-win for them.

    Then the rhetoric starts about how they opposed it from its inception.:(

    There is something disingenuous in all this hyperbola, and I feel my rights have been compromised by the organization I supported.

    Character comes to mind. We can all be misguided at times, but this is unacceptable to me.

    They should have called BS the entire time. They should have said 'eat me' when the club came calling. Instead they elected to join the franchise.

    Thier actions only lead me to believe that the 'NRA' is only looking after thier own.:(

    What's that they say about opinions?

    You've read mine.
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