OBAMA "Not exactly"

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by AL MOUNT, Aug 22, 2008.


    AL MOUNT New Member

    Oct 9, 2006
    Cleaning my Thompson in The Foothills of the Ozark
    Obama's 'Not Exactly'
    Or Obama's Fables
    Accuracy of facts is not one of
    Obama's strong points.

    1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe
    enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth,
    as Selma was in 1965. (Google <http://www.google.com/>' Obama
    Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its
    various untruths.)

    2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a
    privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the
    Kenyan Government.

    3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was
    part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya
    has ever had.

    4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY,
    your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting
    to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the
    first widespread violence in decades. The current government is
    pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish
    Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's
    follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to
    speak to Odinga on the phone.

    Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya
    ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place
    there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned
    Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive
    in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED
    his cousin before the election process here started. Google
    Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the

    5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY,
    she does her daily Salat prayers at5am
    according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity
    wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

    6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is
    Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in
    that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

    Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be
    the first Arab-American President, not the first black
    President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his
    mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his
    father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from
    Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein
    Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his
    father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African
    Negro). From....and for more....go to.....


    7.) I Never Practiced Islam
    NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were
    registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until
    your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

    4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in islam'' http

    8.) My School In Indonesia was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you
    were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic
    Studies for making faces (check your own book).

    February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago:
    Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to
    prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that
    seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters
    heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one
    of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one
    example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's
    narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to
    whitewash troubling facts.'

    9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher
    says you could speak the language.

    10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign
    Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to
    10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn,
    how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

    11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for
    Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you
    have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO
    experience with our closest allies.

    12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT
    EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry
    Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to
    identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

    13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY,
    Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It
    doesn't, and never did, exist.

    14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My outlook on Life - NOT
    EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your
    book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

    15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY,
    here you are, despite saying, live on TV,
    that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are
    all about having experience first.

    16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT
    EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130

    17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church
    groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

    18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior
    lecturer ON LEAVE.

    19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a
    senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

    20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY,
    you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

    21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took
    just 14 days from start to finish.

    22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was
    rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all
    regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from
    which David Axelrod came.

    23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of
    March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to
    be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

    24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess
    - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who
    remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but
    yourself, in your books.

    25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your
    111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which
    lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

    26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even
    your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

    27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY,
    they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their
    creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for
    higher office.

    28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT
    EXACTLY, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of
    the conversation your campaign had with them.

    29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the
    Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali
    Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

    30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the
    delegates decide.

    31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer
    caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public
    vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

    32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you
    passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

    33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used
    tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

    34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

    35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47
    lobbyists, and counting.

    36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT
    EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple
    <http://www.apple.com/> in one afternoon.

    37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq
    - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you
    have voted to fund it every single time.

    38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT
    EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who
    don't have to buy it

    OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.IT <http://president.it/> WOULD BE SUICIDAL
  2. tcrgemini

    tcrgemini New Member

    Aug 20, 2008
  3. satellite66

    satellite66 New Member

    Oct 6, 2004
    Central NJ
    I still can't understand how anyone who is in favor of gun rights can even look at Obama Biden as anything but a threat?
  4. tcrgemini

    tcrgemini New Member

    Aug 20, 2008
    The Dems aren't going to take away your guns any more than the Repubs are going to deny my right to choose what to do with my body. That's all just smoke and mirrors.
  5. ponycar17

    ponycar17 Active Member

    Feb 17, 2005
    South Carolina
    No, I don't think they'll 'take them' but they're going to follow CA's lead in raising taxes on ammunition and guns, requiring non-existent technology to be implemented in firearms (see a supply problem here?), require much more permitting than is currently done in most states, attempt to stop concealed carry at a national level and will generally make it too hard and unaffordable for the good guy to own a gun. Don't believe it?... Look to what CA is doing TODAY!...

    You'd have to value socialism much more than firearms ownership to be a gun owner and vote for Obama (or an uneducated moron)... :D

    Don't come and tell people who read about the issues in detail nearly every day that Obama will not hurt their right to own and enjoy firearms. Folks here tend to be very aware of who is on their side and who is not. Most are not the backwoods type that will simply say, " 'Em Democrats wanna take mah guns" so understand that before making your next post.
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2008
  6. satellite66

    satellite66 New Member

    Oct 6, 2004
    Central NJ
    I don't have a problem with what you do with your body. I have a problem with killing babies. Dems will take away guns and only a fool would think they won't. I'm not trying to say anyone in particular is a fool but it is foolish to think that the current dem party is not out to kill the 2A.
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2008
  7. tcrgemini

    tcrgemini New Member

    Aug 20, 2008
    Relax boys. Believe it or not, some Dems really do understand and respect the rtba.

    My 1st post was just to point out that the original post was a bunch of bunk. Anyone who reads that kind of crap and actually believes any of it are, to use your owns words, fools and morons.
  8. ponycar17

    ponycar17 Active Member

    Feb 17, 2005
    South Carolina
    I generally believe the same and often do just as you by pointing to Snopes.

    Be careful though... With a first post defending Obama, one might believe that you joined this forum to support Obama. Generally, first posts here are actually about firearms and not politics (especially not to defend the other side)... :confused:

    I spent my Saturday with the best friend of my wife who's a gung-ho Democrat that works in Multicultural Affairs and Diversity who also has an interest for firearms. She's a Democrat who supports Obama but couldn't wait to shoot my new AK. :confused: I don't understand the logic behind it all but if you're truly a Democrat that likes guns, then you really don't like guns as much as the rest of us or you wouldn't hand your rights away by voting for Obama. Obama has supported some of the strictest and most assinine gun control measures in his public tenure. It would be unwise to elect him if you're a true enthusiast. It's a dang shame that the Democrat party has been hijacked by nothing but the most extreme liberals. :eek:
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2008
  9. satellite66

    satellite66 New Member

    Oct 6, 2004
    Central NJ
    Forgive my cynical nature but when you see new folks show up here, so near an election, it gives pause about their motives. Especially when they defend those who have a track record of going after guns.
  10. tcrgemini

    tcrgemini New Member

    Aug 20, 2008
    I'm not trolling or anything. Sorry if that's what you thought. I joined just the other day because an old family heirloom (Kentucky Rifle) was given to me by my father. A few posters have been very kind and informative and I was happy that I found this place to help me out. In lurking around some of the other threads on this site I saw the original post in question and like I admitted, I just couldn't resist the snopes reply. Anyway, I wasn't the one who brought up gun rights! I won't step on toes anymore.
  11. CampingJosh

    CampingJosh Well-Known Member

    Sep 25, 2007
    Feel free to step on toes, tcrgemini, especially with facts. Nothing good comes from pretending that misinformation is true.

    As long as you are polite and honest, you'll do well here... even if we have some disagreements.
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