Obama warns 'unelected' Supreme Court

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by nffritos, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. flintlock

    flintlock Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2007
    Upstate NY
    WHat about all the unelected czsars that are dropping "regulation" all over the place? Isn't that just another sort of activism?
  2. al45lc

    al45lc Active Member

    Mar 8, 2010
    colorful colorado
    That's interesting, because MY friends in the Military (USMC) have stated clearly that they are NOT bound by ANY unconstitutional order, and would NOT follow one.
    To the contrary, their oath is TO the Constitution,and NOT the administration currently in power.
    Perhaps my friends are far more American?
    I do not fear our Military, for the most part, they are US, not THEM.(the career politicos)
    I think it an injustice to those who serve to 'carpet' charactorize them as them as blindly following orders.
    In fact, if this were true, it would have happened already.

  3. musclehead

    musclehead New Member

    Mar 1, 2012
    central florida
    did you hear the faux pas? he said "I'm sure the mandate will be struck... upheld" not an exact quote but close.
  4. Jerryboy

    Jerryboy Well-Known Member

    Mar 8, 2012
    perhaps you should find different friends...
  5. raven818

    raven818 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2011
    Jax, Fl.
    He's such an arrogant POS. I say all of the things I can't say here to my wife

    Who am I???

    I was born in one country, raised in another.

    My father was born in another country.

    I was not his only child.

    He fathered several children with numerous women.

    I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in

    My mother died at an early age from cancer.

    Although my father deserted me and my mother raised me, I later wrote a
    book idolizing my father not my mother.

    Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

    My birth records were sketchy.

    No one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

    I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was
    widely accepted in my new country, but I practiced non-traditional
    beliefs and didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under

    I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult,
    disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.

    That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and
    embarked on a new career.

    I wrote a book about my struggles growing up.

    It was clear to those who read my memoirs, that I had difficulties
    accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

    I became active in local politics in my 30's then, with help behind the

    I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in
    my 40's.

    They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.

    I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no
    experience in leading a single organization.

    Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me, as though I
    were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

    I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances.

    This bolstered my ego.

    At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign

    I was very critical of my country in the last war, and seized every
    opportunity to bash my country.

    But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the
    country's economy.

    I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better, and
    every poor person would be fed and housed for free .

    I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess.

    It was the free market, banks and corporations .

    I decided to start making citizens hate them and, if they became
    envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

    I called mine "A People's Campaign."

    That sounded good to all people.

    I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the
    traditional path of politics and was able to gain widespread popular

    I knew that, if I merely offered the people 'hope', together we could
    change our country and the world..

    So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the
    downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted minorities".

    My true views were not widely known and I kept them unknown, until
    after I became my nation's leader.

    I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found
    out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and
    examined those people I associated with. I'm glad they didn't.

    Then I became the most powerful man in the world.

    And then the world learned the truth.

    Who am I?

    * *


    If you were thinking of SOMEONE ELSE, you should be scared, very scared!
  6. steve4102

    steve4102 Former Guest

    Jan 27, 2006
    I am not going to question anyone's patriotism or whether they are less American than you or I. I am just telling you what the people around me will do.

    Lets not forget our history on matters like this either.
    Lets talk The Massacre at Ruby Ridge. How many LEO/Military refused to obey these orders.?

    The Waco Massacre. anyone refuse to obey here?

    How about the Unconstitutional Gun Confiscation during Katrina?? Any of your LEO/Military friends head down there and stop this unlawful confiscation? I didn't think so.

    It has happened before and with Obama at the helm it will happen again. And the results will be the same.

    They will follow orders.
  7. What part of the Constitution was violated, and what made those orders unconstitutional?
    What part of the Constitution was violated, and what made those orders unconstitutional?
    And it wasn't until after Katrina that the Second Amendment was ruled an individual right. So what made it unlawful? There are actually laws on the books that allow those actions during a declared emergency. And if they are found to have violated the laws, the courts will sort it out later.
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2012
  8. steve4102

    steve4102 Former Guest

    Jan 27, 2006
    Thank you, you made my point.
    Obama's new/updated Executive order gives him the Legal right to confiscate, redistribute and ration everything from Energy to Food to Property to People.
    All he has to do is "Declare an Emergency" and his orders will be followed. Period. When the smoke clears, if it ever does, the courts can sort it out later.
    Those LEO and Military that refuse to act on his Executive order will find themselves in the Brig or worse. Ain't gunna happen.
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2012
  9. raven818

    raven818 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2011
    Jax, Fl.
    A federal appeals court is striking back after President Obama cautioned the Supreme Court against overturning the health care overhaul and warned that such an act would be "unprecedented."

    A three-judge panel for the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday ordered the Justice Department to explain by Thursday whether the administration believes judges have the power to strike down a federal law. A source inside the courtroom, who did not want to be identified, confirmed the incident to Fox News. The testy exchange played out during a hearing over a separate challenge to the health care law. It was apparent, however, that the justice who questioned the government attorney present was referring to Obama's recent comments about the Supreme Court's review of that law.

    The source said the justice, Judge Jerry Smith, was pointed in his questioning of the government attorney, asking whether Attorney General Eric Holder believes judges can strike down federal laws.

    Smith then ordered a response from the department within 48 hours. The related letter from the court, obtained by Fox News, instructed the Justice Department to provide an explanation of "no less than three pages, single spaced" by noon on Thursday.

    All three judges on the panel are Republican appointees.

    The Justice Department had no comment when asked about the exchange.

  10. raven818

    raven818 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2011
    Jax, Fl.
    I'd like to add...just for a moment, think about the possibility of one of the liberal judges on the SCOTUS leaking the vote to bHo. And the vote WAS NOT against him. They said obozocare would be held up as constitutional.

    ohboy gets on the tube, as he did, and in his own words threatens the court. The liberal crowd goes wild....atta boy, you go obozo. All the while knowing the vote went his way.

    The decision is released in late June...obozo wins.

    Now his subjects really believe he is their savior reincarnate.

    Hows that sound as a for real possibility?
  11. steve4102

    steve4102 Former Guest

    Jan 27, 2006
    Sounds possible, even more than possible.
    How about this. Obama's lackeys on the Supreme Court inform him that he has been victorious as you have suggested. He threatens the US Supreme Court to make himself out to be a tough guy taking on the Highest Court in the land.
    They get pissed and one or more of those that voted to uphold the Mandate will change their vote to against.
    I like mine better.:)
  12. raven818

    raven818 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2011
    Jax, Fl.
    Thought of that possibility too. But if you look at the libs on the court, it'd be tough to imagine one of them standing up for their own principals because they were outraged by his threat.
  13. steve4102

    steve4102 Former Guest

    Jan 27, 2006
    Agreed, but Kennedy who everyone knows is the deciding factor here may just get pissed enough to do what is right.
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