Obomba birth certificate NEW news.

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by Marlin T, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. Marlin T

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  2. OcelotZ3

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    I vote this the most ironic statement of this "discussion".

    The previous governor of Hawaii was a Republican. If it was legal for her to release anything different than the Certificate of Live Birth, don't you think she would have? Heck, she is good friends with Sarah Palin for crying out loud!

    The current governor was an idiot thinking he could just waltz in there and release it to the world... It's against the law. He definitely didn't put his brain in gear before opening his mouth.

    If the Republican establishment really thought there was an iota of truth behind this, wouldn't you think they would have screamed bloody murder? I mean, really.

    You guys spout of George Soros "funding the anti-birther campaign", yet he is just one guy. I'm sure the Koch brothers could supply more funds if they really thought there was something behind this.

    Really, the idea behind this is just ridiculous.

    But, hey, whatever floats your boat...
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    What's ironic about it?
  4. gendoikari87

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    Exactly, also. Look at the bottom here, it says it's a COPY, and that it's a valid identification of birth.

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  5. Double D

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    ?? Really?? Soros calls the shots in DC. Believe it or not, it doesnt change the facts.
  6. gendoikari87

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    yeah but it doesn't change the fact that the governor couldn't just release it, as it's illegal. Nor does it change the fact that if there really was an iota of truth behind the manufactured rumor, that the GOP would have pounced on it during the whole healthcare debacle and had him impeached.
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    "Hawaii's privacy laws have long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who doesn't have a tangible interest." -Mark Niesse(Associated Press)

    I believe Americans wanting proof of their leaders citizenship is 'tangible interest'.
    Any US troop wanting to know the citizenship of his/her Commander-in-Chief
    would warrant tangible interest.
    Did Abercrombie really know Jobama's parents, or is that also part of the fabrication
    to make it look more sincere ?

    Some of us on this forum have a Certification of Live Birth also, instead of a 'birth certificate'. Although yours may be from a state other than HI, get it out and examine
    it on front, and tell me what all is missing on the front of this copy of O's.
    Better yet, maybe between all of us, we can find someone who has one from HI
    and put a copy out here for all to see what is really on the face of it.
    I believe most will be shocked.
  8. Bobitis

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    So, we have two documents of the matter.
    One contains far more information than the other, and is signed and notarized.

    My background and schooling is largely mechanical. By brain works in a logical manner. No, I don't have a degree in anything, yet engineers consult me on a regular basis. I don't believe everything that's fed to me.
    If it sounds/looks right, I will entertain the thought/concept. If there's any reason for doubt, I will question the matter.

    If the HI document is 'shielded by law', where did this copy come from?
    Using that reasoning, the document would be a fake. No? Or was it 'leaked'?:rolleyes:
    That would leave the Kenyan document to stand alone.

    My brain tells me the Kenyan document is authentic.

    Of course, one person could end all this debate. He chooses not to.
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  9. Double D

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    OK, So why spend over 2 million in legal bills to "protect" it? I think that speaks for itself. His a$$ is outa there next go round. He should be in jail regardless for attempting to sell out the US to the UN and all of his commie friends and associations and his apology tours and spending and need I go on? He should be like EVERYONE else and PROVE without a shadow of a doubt that he is qualified. By the way, I wouldnt expect a liberal to agree with me. I have been down that never ending highway.
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    I'm with you 100% Double D.
    The whole thing stinks to high heaven the last 2.5yrs. There are moments I don't even know where I'm living anymore !!
    Aside from the huge BLANK space on the bottom right of his certificate, which isn't blank on the ones I've seen, there would be no reason to even black out the certificate # on the top right, unless......well, if you got caught with a forged document you could be prosecuted, but without the 'serial' number, there's no real forgery.
    Sorry, the entire thing drives me CRAZY !! My apologies to all, sincerely.
    (I'm just an old Jarhead Capitano, and have been told I am stubborn) :rolleyes: :mad:

    Just one more thing and I promise I will try to leave this alone :(
    On the certificate above here, on this page, about 1" above the word 'invalidate'
    and slightly to the right.......what is that in the anti-fraud field?
    Look closely, is it a date, backwards, 2007?....bleeding thru from the back?....
    I'm done, sorry, time for my medication.........
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    not really, just means it was released, or someone anonymously leaked it illegally. Given that it is a copy I think it's the latter, likely some one needed it for verification (possibly even for his inauguration) so they transferred it, and someone copied or stole the copy and leaked it.

    Quite possibly, if it was sent as a form of verification of citizenship for some campaign stuff.

    Unless you don't want the presidents identity stolen?

    Edit: found the reverse it's june 6 2007, also found it was not leaked but actually requested by obamas campaign, to show that he was a natural born citizen.
    http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_9.jpg
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  12. OcelotZ3

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    If you are referring to the widely-distributed Certificate of Live Birth, Obama released it...
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    Perhaps I'm an idiot or Illinois is just different. In Illinois a hospital birth certificate is not a legal document, only the certificate issued by the county. Much like the diff between a church marriage certificate and the county marriage license, or like the fancy discharge form and your DD214.
    Sound and fury signifying nothing. The state of Hawaii says he's a natural born citizen. Don't see where the issue is. Of course the level of exaggeration surrounding politics now has taken on the frenzy of patent medicine and diet products. Don't believe all you hear, especially if it's a sound bite.
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    I know it's a Constitutional Requirement, but it's really too late. Wherever he was born is secondary to where he was brought up. He spent an awfully long time in Indonesia, the most Muslim populated country in the world. He spent time in Kenya, in Pakistan, and lord knows where else.
    What I always find amusing is how he speaks to a large, mainly black audience with that phony Black accent. He never grew up Black. He was raised by a white mother and grandmother. I still don't know how this idiot got to be elected :eek:. TJ
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    How about the TWO state officials that say it isn't there AND that he "He was not born in HI."

    Nope, I don't see any issues there either. :rolleyes:
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    They can't find them because they can't get access to them without him directly approving it. Which he did, and we've seen the certificate.

    also he was only in indonesia untill fourth grade, and when he was there, he was going to a catholic school. After that Hawaii till he graduated then went to los angeles.
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  17. Bobitis

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    Are you saying that the copy his Kenyan B/C which is dated 1964, signed and notarized, is a forgery?
  18. Double D

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    Bottom line is this, the guy is an anti american, socialist, baby killing, muslim loving, lying, worst to EVER take office, embarrasment to the US that we have ever seen or ever will see. Thats why its important, and thats why we want to know. To sit and watch the enemy have the keys to our very freedoms. Thats why its an issue. Next friggin question.
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    @ bobits: yes, a rather bad one at that.

    @double D: Obama is NOT a socialist.... the rest seems about right. I could be wrong it could just be he's never held any managment positions at state level and he just doesn't know what the hell he's doing. I swear I thought being a governor or at least mayor was one requirement to being the president.
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    Barry Soetoro?

    It appears that Barack Obama’s official birth certificate actually reads Barry Soetoro. His named was changed from Barack Obama to Barry Soetoro when his mother’s husband Lolo Soetoro adopted Barack. Therefore, the original birth certificate provided by the Barack campaign, is either a fake or his name has been changed back to his birth name. Considering this new development, is Barack a dual-citizen of Indonesia and the United States? And did he use his Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan in 1981?
    Glen????
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