Obozo Lie - There will be NO rationing, etc

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  1. Marlin

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    Whatever happened to the sanctity of life ???
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    A 'Duty to Die'?

    By Thomas Sowell
    May 11, 2010


    One of the many fashionable notions that have caught on among some of the intelligentsia is that old people have "a duty to die," rather than become a burden to others.

    This is more than just an idea discussed around a seminar table. Already the government-run medical system in Britain is restricting what medications or treatments it will authorize for the elderly. Moreover, it seems almost certain that similar attempts to contain runaway costs will lead to similar policies when American medical care is taken over by the government.

    Make no mistake about it, letting old people die is a lot cheaper than spending the kind of money required to keep them alive and well. If a government-run medical system is going to save any serious amount of money, it is almost certain to do so by sacrificing the elderly.

    There was a time-- fortunately, now long past-- when some desperately poor societies had to abandon old people to their fate, because there was just not enough margin for everyone to survive. Sometimes the elderly themselves would simply go off from their family and community to face their fate alone.

    But is that where we are today?

    Talk about "a duty to die" made me think back to my early childhood in the South, during the Great Depression of the 1930s. One day, I was told that an older lady-- a relative of ours-- was going to come and stay with us for a while, and I was told how to be polite and considerate towards her.

    She was called "Aunt Nance Ann," but I don't know what her official name was or what her actual biological relationship to us was. Aunt Nance Ann had no home of her own. But she moved around from relative to relative, not spending enough time in any one home to be a real burden.

    At that time, we didn't have things like electricity or central heating or hot running water. But we had a roof over our heads and food on the table-- and Aunt Nance Ann was welcome to both.

    Poor as we were, I never heard anybody say, or even intimate, that Aunt Nance Ann had "a duty to die."

    I only began to hear that kind of talk decades later, from highly educated people in an affluent age, when even most families living below the official poverty level owned a car or truck and had air-conditioning.

    It is today, in an age when homes have flat-panelled TVs, and most families eat in restaurants regularly or have pizzas and other meals delivered to their homes, that the elites-- rather than the masses-- have begun talking about "a duty to die."

    Back in the days of Aunt Nance Ann, nobody in our family had ever gone to college. Indeed, none had gone beyond elementary school. Apparently you need a lot of expensive education, sometimes including courses on ethics, before you can start talking about "a duty to die."

    Many years later, while going through a divorce, I told a friend that I was considering contesting child custody. She immediately urged me not to do it. Why? Because raising a child would interfere with my career.

    But my son didn't have a career. He was just a child who needed someone who understood him. I ended up with custody of my son and, although he was not a demanding child, raising him could not help impeding my career a little. But do you just abandon a child when it is inconvenient to raise him?

    The lady who gave me this advice had a degree from the Harvard Law School. She had more years of education than my whole family had, back in the days of Aunt Nance Ann.

    Much of what is taught in our schools and colleges today seeks to break down traditional values, and replace them with more fancy and fashionable notions, of which "a duty to die" is just one.

    These efforts at changing values used to be called "values clarification," though the name has had to be changed repeatedly over the years, as more and more parents caught on to what was going on and objected. The values that supposedly needed "clarification" had been clear enough to last for generations and nobody asked the schools and colleges for this "clarification."

    Nor are we better people because of it.

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    Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His Web site is www.tsowell.com.

    © 2010 Creators Syndicate
  2. navis128

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    This is outragous...it will never fly in MY family
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    HR 3200, page 427, Government provides program that orders end of life ttreatment, government deectates how your life ends.

    Page 425, Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in deatn.

    Page 430, Government will decide what level of treatment you may have at end of life.

    Page 29, Admission that your health care will be rationed. $5,000 per individual, and $10,000 per family for each year.
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    If more people read Thomas Sowell, many of our problems could be solved. The man has insight, experience, and speaks the truth.
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    Mr. Sowell I salute you. I grew up in the same generation and learned the same things. Family took care of family no matter how inconvenient. We didn't have much but we all had the same so it didn't matter. Affluence didn't help us very much when it came to moral fiber.
  6. armedandsafe

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    My Grandfather, at age 90, entered a "rest home." There was much discussion and even some angry words spoken before he moved there. But, in the end, he got what he wished, and lived there until the end, 6 years later. The day he passed away, he spent in his usual routine. He cleared a few weeds in the flower beds, took a buss and two trolleys to see a friend, did his friend's shopping, took two trolleys and a bus back and took a nap before dinner.

    Pops
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    All lies...
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    Thomas Sowell ..... YES!

    Didn't Charlton Heston make a movie about ObamaCare .... Soylent Green???? Again, Heston had it right!
  9. Eddie N

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    Maybe those in DC should have a duty to die. Who do they think they are to try to tell us how to live and when to die? Family is more important than cost.
    I'd like to say more, but the words just aren't coming to me. Let's just say, I'm ready to fight for my family and fight I will!!!!
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    Mom and Dad tool care of us when we couldn't take care of ourselves. We took care of them when they needed us. That is the way it should be.
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    My grandma took care of my greatgrandma until she wasnt able. The day grams climbed behind the wheel of her well maintained 1975 Cadilliac Sedan DeVille powered by a 500cid Cady engine and decided she was goin to town (Grams was 98 and suffered from severe althimers(Spelling sorry). We thought we had taken all the Keys to the car but she had a set ferretted away). She wound up hitting a cart holder in the FoodLion Parking lot that was full of carts and pushing them plumb out of the parking lot, amiss all the carnage of carts and cart cage sat this powder blue caddy with this lil ole woman who was upset cuz the carts got in her way. We all decided it was time for grams to go to a home where she was monitored. Up until the day she passed a way my grandma was there with her almost every day. On the days my grandma couldnt make it our neighbor Ann was there with her.

    I know I strayed from the topic but the point is our seniors deserve the oppertunity to live their lives to the fullest for every moment they have left on this world. Duty to Die should never even be a consideration. This administration and its cronies have no clue and if they think the population will bring them up for re election they got another thing comming. This president and his cronies are goin down as a laughing stock ofus history. He is makeing ole Jimmy Carter look like an over achiever (According to my grandfather).
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    Also, there's a lot of stuff we can learn from our seniors. They've had more years to live through different life experiences and can pass knowledge on to us. Maybe that's why Obummer and his cronies are saying that.
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    Sadly, I think this administration of fools knows exactly what it's doing and is following the plan they have been formulating since the days of Eugenics.

    They will try everything they have ever dreamt of to enslave the masses to the teat of Fedzilla and flush our freedoms down the toilet.

    Doing a right handy job of things so far. When are we going to demand they stop?????:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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    What really gets me about Obama is he has a way of speaking the makes everyone think he is genuinely interested in their future.

    He could say we are going to kill off everyone over the age of fifty and at least half of his moronic followers would stand there clapping and liberal TV stations would report it like he should get another Nobel prize.

    Makes me sick watching this guy and his cronies at work.
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