Old Shotgun

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  1. carmencip

    carmencip New Member

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    I was giving an old Vulcan Arms Co. shotgun and was wondering how old it is. Its a side-by-side, 12 ga, although it doesn't say so anywhere on the gun. The serial # is 122503. That's the only markings I can find. The mechanical condition is good although the bluing is about gone. The wood is walnut and it has some decent checkering at several locations. The wood to metal fit is good but you can tell it was done with hand tools as opposed to being machine cut.

    Do you think it would be safe to try shooting this gun? Maybe with low brass?

    Appreciate the help!
  2. wonderwhippet

    wonderwhippet Active Member

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    No! No! No! Hang it up over the fireplace where it belongs. To make sure nobody takes chance on shooting it, you ought to take out the firing pins!
  3. Xracer

    Xracer *TFF Admin Staff Mediator*

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    Your Vulcan Arms shotgun was made by Crescent Firearms of Norwich, CT for the Edward K. Tryon Co. of Philadelphia, PA.

    Crescent was the largest U.S. maker of "Hardware Store" shotguns for various hardware store chains, gun wholesalers, and catalog companies. They manufactured inexpensive, but decent quality shotguns under more than 100 different "house brands" and trade names.

    Crescent was in business from 1888 until about 1931, so they made shotguns during both blackpowder and modern smokeless powder eras......depending on when the gun was made.

    If you want to shoot it, take it to a good shotgun gunsmith and get his opinion as to it's condition, whether or not it's safe to shoot, and what type of shells to use.....and PLEASE, don't try to shoot it until you've done this.
  4. r3t8k5

    r3t8k5 New Member

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    Does anyone know when a Vulcan Arms Co #300448 double-barrelled, external hammers shotgun was made?
  5. Xracer

    Xracer *TFF Admin Staff Mediator*

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    Hi r3t8k5.....welcome to TFF. :)

    As I stated in the post above, Crescent went out of business in 1931, and AFIK, no records exist of serial #s to manufacture date of their guns.

    Crescent was best known for producing “house brand” shotguns. These were made for and sold by a variety of hardware companies, mail order stores, retailers and distributors. More than 200 names are known or thought to have been used on shotguns produced by Crescent. In 1929 N. R. Davis Firearms Co. merged with Crescent to become Davis-Crescent Arms Co. H & D Folsom was a New York importer and distributor of firearms from about 1890 to 1930, at which time they merged with the Davis-Crescent Arms Co. In 1931 the depression forced the sale of Davis-Crescent to the Stevens Arms Co., which assembled the remaining parts and sold them under the Stevens name.

    However, if your Crescent-made shotgun has external hammers, chances are that it was made pre-1910, during the black-powder era and should NOT be used with modern smokless powder shotgun rounds.

    If you are considering shooting it, take it to a good shotgun gunsmith and get his opinion as to it's condition, whether or not it's safe to shoot, and what type of shells to use.....and PLEASE, don't try to shoot it until you've done this.
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