Oops:Forgot the powder.

Discussion in 'The Ammo & Reloading Forum' started by bayhawk2, Jan 1, 2011.

  1. bayhawk2

    bayhawk2 New Member

    Nov 9, 2010
    So o.k..It happens.Now what.The dredded "pip".In a revolver
    no less.Oh I hope I just didn't have a shell in the cylinder?
    No luck.The primer pushed that .44 mag bullet out just far
    enough that part of the bullet is in the casing and the other in
    the barrel chamber.I try to turn the cylinder.It ain't gonna to happen.
    Just as well to have stuck a rod down the barrel and into the
    cylinder.I try hitting it with the palm of my hand.I realize that
    this is not a cheap gun and I can see my hitting it can cause
    some damage,so that's not the answer.Yeah I have a few range
    tools,but this is my first rodeo as far as pistol reloading goes.
    I come to the conclusion"Game over".I take the gun home.
    Out to the workbench.In that period of time the pressure build
    up in the casing has leaked out.How did I know that?I didn't.
    So I scratch my..and the top of my head and such.What to do?
    I sure had some crazy ideas that crossed my mind.I won't go
    into those as it may..uh..I finally said it was time to take action or
    take it to a smith.Install a cleaning rod down the barrel.Take my
    handy dandy hammer and drive the bullet back into the casing.
    Ahh but then the thought of there really being powder in the caseing
    crossed my mind.My hands in front of the barrel?.44 Mag?Plan B.
    Put the rod in a vise.Take the pistol (by the handle)and insert the
    rod into the barrel.Now I am at least on the right end of the gun.
    Now lightly jab the gun forward driving the rod into the bullet.
    Repeat if necessary.Backing the barrel back and jabbing it forward
    drove the bullet back into the caseing and back into the cylinder.
    Wah-lah.The cylinder turned.When opened?The bullet just fell out of the cylinder.Was it the right way to do it?I would like to hear opinions on this.Yes the fix is to keep your head in the game when
    reloading.This is not something I'd do normally,but I was loading
    different powder charges,to try out at the range.Therefore my
    rythem was not routine.Still my bad.So bottom line?Is there a better way?
    Long story guys,and a little embarrasing,but if it can help?Did I learn from this?My reloading techniqes will change so that it will be vertually
    impossible to do this again.Bayhawk
  2. Shooter45

    Shooter45 *Administrator* Staff Member Supporting Member

    Feb 9, 2001
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  3. mikld

    mikld Well-Known Member

    Jun 24, 2009
    Seemed to work for you. I've used a brass rod and mallet (a rod larger in dia. than a cleaning rod). Since the primer has already fired, it won't ignite any powder that may be left in the case. I'd make sure everything is aligned and carefully tap the bullet back, watching the progress carefully. My first was in 1969 in a .38 Special 3" Rossi. No harm, no foul, just really embarrassing at the range...

    BTW; I've got a Mini Maglight on my bench and shine it in every case to make sure there's powder in it!
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2011
  4. bayhawk2

    bayhawk2 New Member

    Nov 9, 2010
    mikld:Thanks for the info on the unburned powder.I didn't know
    that.Yes,it was embarrasing.As you have experienced.Probably all have that have reloaded enough.Lots of folks out on the range.I was trying to be "cool" in my
    actions.Did it work?Probably not.No one said anything.They probably have
    been there and done that.Yes my method will be identical to yours from now on.
    I was in the process of trying to charge and seat in progression with a single
    action press set-up.It had failure written all over it.bayhawk.
  5. TheGunClinger

    TheGunClinger Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    I always have my trusty hammer and a variety of brass rods in my range bag. Been there done that.
  6. hbucki

    hbucki New Member

    Dec 16, 2007
    I used to own a HK mp5 .My friend was shooting it at the range next to me. It just quit firing. Tried to cycle the bolt no good.I took it back to the man who converted it HARD TIMES ARMORY. He tried firing it no go. He ran a cleaning rod down the barrel .What do you think fell out. It was in the barrel just far enough to keep the bolt from locking up for the next round. my small daughter had been talking with me while i was loading and i missed a step. That was 20 years ago
  7. johnlives4christ

    johnlives4christ Former Guest

    Apr 28, 2008
    i'd say you did okay. my concern would be that if you used a steel cleaning rod you might have scratched the rifling or buggered the crown up a little doing it that way. with a 44 mag you can fit a dowel rod down the bore and would have thought that to be a better choice.

    hope i dont have those problems while reloading. i've been trying to be careful

    what kind of 44 do you have?
  8. bayhawk2

    bayhawk2 New Member

    Nov 9, 2010
    John-I have a Tracker (yeah I know)not much lost if it were damaged.I really do like this
    gun though.I used a normal aluminum gun cleaning rod.The barrel is still
    nice and shiny.I think I was in panic mode.It will be hard for me to do that again as my reloading process has changed to eliminate that possibility ever again.I hope.You are right.I think I'll invest in a wood
    dowel rod.Eliminate the possible barrel damage.Good idea.Thanks.bayhawk
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2011
  9. johnlives4christ

    johnlives4christ Former Guest

    Apr 28, 2008
    well since your rod was aluminum there wasnt much danger of messing the gun up. i am not a big fan of taurus... but i wouldnt mind a tracker either. taurus revolvers are good for the money... their autos though... idk.. im kinda leery of them
  10. LDBennett

    LDBennett Well-Known Member

    Dec 20, 2003
    Hesperia, CA
    The Taurus 92 and 99 are manufactured on Beretta equipment left in Brazil by Beretta at the end of a military contract. I have a 99 (92 with adjustable sights) that is an excellent gun. I bought it in the late 1980's. The only problem has been with the Taurus added adjustable sights that kept shooting off the gun until I modified their design. My fix on the sights has yet to fail.

    Their revolvers seem to be OK but they are no S&W. The new plastic pistols are not my cup of tea.... I buy guns I expect to last my lifetime and that of my heirs. Their auto's other than the 92 based versions are suspect to me. I have a Taurus clone of the Winchester Model 63 (22 auto rifle) and a Taurus clone of the Colt Lightning centerfire pump rifle. Both have been problematic guns for feeding ammo and accuracy. I would not recommend either gun or any other Taurus rifle for that matter based on my experiences with these two rifles.

    I watched closely as Taurus introduced their 1911. On paper the gun looks really good. Then over time the negative reports stated coming in. The gun appears to be a real value as it comes with all the custom bells and whistles. But apparently the gun is not that great or it would have become a whole lot more popular. That's another Taurus gun I would not buy. But we all get to choose and Taurus guys, except for the Beretta based 92, are not my choice anymore.

  11. bayhawk2

    bayhawk2 New Member

    Nov 9, 2010
    LD-Like I've said in other threads.Maybe I just got lucky.I have this Taurus Tracker in which I've fired hundreds of rounds in.The only problem I had with it is with this
    un-powdered cartridge.(My fault).It doesn't look the part of handling heavy
    loads,but it has held up nicely with some borderline +P rounds.
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2011
  12. cycloneman

    cycloneman Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
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