Polster says "pre-revolutionary" Americans

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by chubcobear, Aug 8, 2011.

  1. H-D

    H-D Active Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    "Should violence plague American streets as a result of a deepening economic crisis, U.S. troops have already been prepared to deal with such a crisis."

    Yeah I wonder which side they will be on when they get another pay cut ?

  2. sliclee

    sliclee New Member

    Jun 5, 2011
    Miami Beach Florida
    Our military would never fight against the citizens of this country BUT THE POLICE WOULD.
    As the Supreme Court has stated on several occasions, the duty of the police is to protect the govt and not its citizens.
    Thats why the next few years after they stated this the words on police cars To Protect and serve and all the rest were removed.
  3. BillM

    BillM Active Member

    Jan 16, 2010
    Amity Orygun

    ROTFLMAO. Never heard of the "Bonus Army" and how they were dealt with?

    Check the left hand column in the link below. The US military is no stranger
    to "fighting against the citizens of this country".

  4. redwing carson

    redwing carson Former Guest

    Dec 11, 2010
    western wyoming
    Ole Honest Abe Linclon was the first one to use troops againsit American citizens. The Draft Riots broke out in New York City during the Civil War. The Union Army killed many protestors of the then new draft.:eek:
  5. rentalguy1

    rentalguy1 Former Guest

    More like good ole George Washington in the Whiskey Rebellion.
  6. The Duke

    The Duke New Member

    Mar 11, 2006
    NW Louisiana
    Dont ever believe NEVER...the army will and has in the past been used against citizens of this country...

    Posse comitatus law; But read on to Martial Law.
    The Act prohibits members of the Army from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.
    The statute prohibits Army and Air Force personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Navy and Marine Corps are prohibited by a Department of Defense directive, not by the Act itself.[1][2] The Coast Guard, under the Department of Homeland Security, is exempt from the Act.

    HOWEVER; There is Martial Law. This has been used quite a few times in my state and Im sure elsewhere. It allows the military to control everything and suspend the constitution.

    Martial law is the imposition of military rule by military authorities over designated regions on an emergency basis—usually only temporary—when the civilian government or civilian authorities fail to function effectively (e.g., maintain order and security, and provide essential services), when there are extensive riots and protests, or when the disobedience of the law becomes widespread. In most cases, military forces are deployed to quiet the crowds, to secure government buildings and key or sensitive locations, and to maintain order.[1] Generally, military personnel replace civil authorities and perform some or all of their functions. The constitution could be suspended, and in full-scale martial law, the highest-ranking military officer would take over, or be installed, as the military governor or as head of the government, thus removing all power from the previous executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government.[1]
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2011
  7. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    Remember the 1992 Los Angeles riots: The riots, beginning in the evening after the verdicts on the Rodney King arrest, and beating by the police, peaked in intensity over the next two days, but ultimately continued for several days. A curfew and deployment of the National Guard began to control the situation; eventually U.S. Army soldiers and United States Marines were ordered to the city to quell disorder as well.
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2011
  8. Gun Geezer

    Gun Geezer Well-Known Member

    Oct 5, 2009
    Central Florida
    Most of the riots that have occurred in this country involved looting, burning, beating and general lawlessness and violence. An organized or spontaneous uprising to overthrow a corrupt government is pretty much uncharted territory and I don't think we can make any accurate prediction as to what the police or army might or might not do. After all, the police and soldiers are taxpayers and have a vested interest in the outcome as well. Especially in today's information age, if the media is truly unbiased, the facts will get out to everyone. They are already reporting that only 17 % of the population has any confidence or trust in their government. If that number should drop to 10% or less I'd think we would see wholesale resignations of politicians or at least mass recalls. It doesn't make sense that the military and/or police would continue to support leaders whom they no longer trust.
  9. hogger129

    hogger129 Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2009
    Wouldn't you think the US gov would just hire a bunch of mercenaries? They know the military won't fight its own citizens.
  10. The Duke

    The Duke New Member

    Mar 11, 2006
    NW Louisiana
    Geezer...It would be very interesting to say the least, if the soldiers would disobey orders from a superior...Ultimately the commanding generals who are usually qualified but also politically connected to the adminstration at the time may get 'presidential' orders and then send through the chain of command...If enough soldiers/airmen/marines refused to obey what they perceive as unconstitutional orders, the generals may or may not have what would amount to a 'Coup d'état'...In my estimation, as opposed to use of force, they would have a 'private chat' with whomever sits in the oval office and tell them it aient gonna work and they aient gonna do it...If the powers what be, insisted and took further steps to control the armed services, this country would be on the brink of civil war...We see it now in Lybia, Syria and other middle eastern countries....There could be 'side taking' amongst the military and that would bring about a terrible delima for this country.

    I have little respect for todays government, excepting our troops, who have my deepest and longest lasting respect. I hope and pray they will never be forced into a situation where they must make such a decision. (That ringing sound you hear is the alarms at the NSA, meaning this post gets sent up the line for review.) :eek::eek:
  11. The Duke

    The Duke New Member

    Mar 11, 2006
    NW Louisiana
    Hogger...Obummer already had that idea...Remember his 'National Security Force' that would be as well manned and equipped as the military? Did someone call them "Brownshirts"? Adolph did the same thing and had total dictatorial control.
  12. BillM

    BillM Active Member

    Jan 16, 2010
    Amity Orygun
    Ummm---If it gets to that point, what are they going to pay them with?
    A bucket of hundred dollar bills will have less real worth than a roll of
    toilet paper, and if I were a merc I sure as H3ll wouldn't be taking any
    US Govt. IOU's!
  13. Millwright

    Millwright Well-Known Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    [bold added]

    The Bonus Army was comprised of jobless veterans of WW1 that, at the height of the Depression, marched to Washington D.C. and camped on Anacostia Flats, petitioning Congress to pay them the promised "serving bonus" they would receive at a set age after the Great War. Congress didn't pay. Instead it sent the US Army under the leadership of Douglas McArthur - with the assistance of Dwight Eisenhower and George Patton among others - to disperse the campers. The army set fire to the hutments and physically dispersed the veterans. >MW
  14. HunterAlpha1

    HunterAlpha1 Former Guest

    Aug 8, 2011
    Yorktown, VA
    if only the Bonus (un)Army had been armed, i think the story would've had a much different ending. in fact, i think that if they had, the United States today would be unrecognizable, and wonderfully so.
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