Primer ?

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  1. Ron01013

    Ron01013 New Member

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    I'm using Remington 1 1/2 Sm. pistol for 9mm & 40S&W (also Federal Sm pistol)
    Can I use the same for 357.....?
    Thanks,
    Ron
  2. 312shooter

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    Yes with exceptions, if you follow load data carefully some loads for 357 call for small pistol magnum primers. It depends on what powder is used.
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    My reloading book says to use small pistol magnum primers for 357 mag 9s&40s use small pistol primers
    Stan
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  4. JLA

    JLA Well-Known Member

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    I use mags in everything to eliminate the BS. It doesnt matte ras long as you follow proper loading procedure and watch for pressure signs.

    It makes very little difference in pistol ammo, but sometimes ill find a rifle load that will shoot twice as consistent with a std primer, all else being equal.. And to be fair, i have found opposite results as well. Thats all part of the testing process. And all of the fun IMO.
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    NO! and you are not supposed to use the 1 1/2 primers in high pressure rounds like the 9mm and 40 S&W either. Says so on the box.

    And here.
    http://remington.custhelp.com/app/a...sion/L3RpbWUvMTMyODQ1MDAwNi9zaWQvQklCU2FYUGs=

    In pistol cartridges, the 1-1/2 small pistol primer should not be used in the 357 Magnum, 357 SIG or the 40 S&W. The 5-1/2 small pistol primer is the proper selection for these rounds.
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    In the last 2 speer manuals some of there 357 loads call for reg small pistol primers. I've try ed 2 of them one with 2400 powder and the power pistol loads work better without mag primers.
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    Primers affect pressure - either up or down. If your'e in the middle of the suggested load range it may not matter, but if you get to either end then you're best to used exactly what was used in the book.
  8. Ron01013

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    Thanks everyone,
    I load mostly in the middle range of the 9s and 40s so I guess it'll be the same for the 357...
    I'm surprised to find the Same bullet for the 357 as the 9mm
    Precision Bullets 125gr. .365Dia.
    ???Would you crimp these loads???
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    .365" dia is 9mm makarov. You mean .356" I hope.

    and a .38 spec/.357 mag should be used with bullets of .357-.359" dia. 9mm and .380 used with .355-.356" dia.
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    ^^^^^^^^^^
    This.

    Also do not use the Rem 1 1/2 primers!
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    yes I meant 356 not 365..
    I don't crimp 9s or 49s...Should these be crimped?
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    I do. taper crimp. 9s crimp to .380-.381 casemouth dia and .45s (i assume ;)) crimp to .470-.471"
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    Crimp is really the wrong term, what you need to do is use the crimp feature on your seating die or a dedicated crimp die to remove the flare plus maybe a thou or two more. It's not really a crimp, just removing the flare.
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    Tks Steve,
    I do use the seating die to remove the flare an I see a very slight change after seating the bullet.
    Thanks Again,
    Ron
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    A couple weekends ago I loaded my first .40's using some Rem. primers I bought back during the drought. I read this yesterday & when I got home & checked-sure enough they were 1 1/2's. These were loaded a hair above starting load.What can happen if I fire these in my H&K? Do I need to pull these bullets & can the brass? What good are these primers? I'm tempted to can them too. I thought a small pistol primer was just that-Thank's for any input-Dave
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