quality of 16" v. 20" barrel on AK ( 1 2 )

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    southernfreedom
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    I have to make a decision tonight...........
    Does anyone have an opinion on which is better...........a
    Russian 16 inch or Russian
    20 inch barrel on an AK? My wife's gonna kill me!
    Thanks guys (and Ms. Lynn)

    TallTLynn
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    (10/15/01 7:59:01 pm)
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    Here's how I see it. 16" barrel makes the gun shorter and more manageable (maybe). 20" barrel is going to give you a little more effective shooting range (distance wise). It also might help the kick involved (though that's not a lot I admit).

    Now I would personally go with the 20" barrel - but then I'm really one of those people that like to reach out and touch someone. Might be why I keep trying to see how well I can shoot at 75 feet with my Beretta 9mm.

    Now if you were to ask me the length of barrel on my AK I would have to tell you I don't have a clue (not even too sure how to measure it).

    The guys here will give you much better reasoning for one length or another but there's my reasoning for what it is worth.

    NeoDebo
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    (10/15/01 8:05:53 pm)
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    Barrel length = distance from the face of the CLOSED breech to the muzzle

    Measure thisaway: Clear the weapon. Close the breech. Insert a cleaning rod into the muzzle until it rests on the face of the breech. Make a mark on the cleaning rod at the muzzle. Withdraw the rod and measure the distance.


    LIKTOSHOOT
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    (10/15/01 8:57:59 pm)
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    ^^*$$#%*&(&**&&(*^(*$$#@*&OIP){>>?: I just spent 30 DAYUM minutes answering this question in the other forum here...........I`M NOT A HAPPY CAMPER
    America, we are the symbol of Freedom and Liberty......

    gpostal
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    (10/15/01 9:11:14 pm)
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    so what you are saying t size does matter?

    20" barrel will also give you a little higher velocity rating

    southernfreedom
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    (10/15/01 10:48:46 pm)
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    Well, looks so far like the consensus is that
    a 20 inch barrel will be better
    all around. I like to "reach out and touch someone" also, TallTLynn.

    LIKTOSHOOT, I owe you an apology for posting the question on 2 boards.
    My excuse is that I had to get an answer from as many as possible
    by tomorrow morning to order the Russsian AK. I swear I have never
    done that before. You said.....
    " you are aware of the unburned powder flash from the short barrel....."
    Yep, and until you mentioned it I never realized
    that residue was unburnt and wasted powder. So it seems obvious now
    to me that the 20 inch is probably better for me. I already have a 16 inch
    but it is Chinese and I really want this Russian one. But will the
    20 inch "bump shoot" as well as the 16 inch I wonder?
    Thanks for all the replies.


    TallTLynn
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    (10/15/01 10:53:44 pm)
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    southern - I knew there was a reason why I liked the longer barrels.

    Now my next question is where you getting the Russian AK? How much is it going to run you? And do they have more?

    I know, I know, I know...questions, questions, questions...

    Oh and yeah the 20" should bump shoot as well from all I've heard.

    southernfreedom
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    (10/16/01 9:30:20 am)
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    TallTLynn: Federal Arms Corporation (763) 780-8780 sent me a
    new catalogue yesterday. They have new issue Russian 16" and 20" pistol grip
    AK's for $299.

    TallTLynn
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    That's cruelty lol - hope you enjoy it southernfreedom - they are a blast to shoot.

    AntiqueDr
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    No they dont. Wont have them until mid-November.


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    LIKTOSHOOT
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    heheheheheheeheheheheh
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    NeoDebo
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    (10/16/01 8:07:52 pm)
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    Ya'll ain't gonna reach way out and touch much of anything with an AK regardless of the barrel length...

    TallTLynn
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    NeoDebo - that's why I have a 8mm, 30-06 (walked home with that one tonight), and 2 Enfields. Got to have a closer rifle as well.

    southernfreedom
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    AntiqueDr: What do you mean by this???

    "Won't have them until mid-November."


    Am I stuck waiting? I called them and they said nothing about a wait.


    polishshooter
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    4" will NOT make the x39 into a "real" rifle cartridge, only about 15 mm of case length will, so go with the shorter one...it's a short range round anyway, might as well make it handy too, kinda like a short barrel on a .30-30...

    Oh, I'm repeating myself...
    It is not the critic who counts, nor the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of the deed could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming, who does actually strive to do the deeds, who knows the great enthusiasms and spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly. His place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat. -Theodore Roosevelt 1898

    southernfreedom
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    polishshooter: Well, I know the range and power of the AK is not that of
    a M-1 Garand but I am looking for a fun and reliable firearm with low costs
    ammo.
    Cheaper- than- Dirt is selling 1000 rounds now for $69.00. So I can
    plink all day for very very low cost. Or bump shoot for cheap too. Compare that to
    the cost of ammo for
    the Garand or even the highly over-rated AR-15. Besides that, I already have
    a 16" AK. I want a 20" for my collection. Just my opinion.


    NeoDebo
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    If yer done hadda 16 incher and done knowed all about the range, lost/gained velocity, an' sich, an' wuz already knowin' that yer wuz awantin' a 20 incher fer yer "collection", then why did yer ast in thu first place?


    AntiqueDr
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    (10/18/01 8:21:19 am)
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    SF,

    I called them to order 20 cash-right-now and they said they wont have them until mid-November.


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