Question about selling a registered gun?

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  1. Ronnie02

    Ronnie02 New Member

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    I could be missing this somewhere online but...

    IF I wanted to sell one of my guns that is registered how would I go about that?
  2. JUNKKING

    JUNKKING Active Member

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    Just find a buyer and take the buyer to a local FFL and have it transfered to the buyer. Both parties must have I.D.
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    Thanks for the info JK.
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    No problem ....It may be different depending on where you are from. I dont know many laws in other states. Thats all you have to do here in PA.
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    Find a buyer, get the money, give him the firearm.

    Depending on what you are looking to do of course, what state you live in, and what kind of firearm it is.

    Some states/firearms you have to go through a FFL. If you are looking to have it UN-registered to you (as in, it never was) it will not happen. You will ALWAYS be a registered owner of that firearm. By transferring it through an FFL, it will then be registered AGAIN to the new buyer. Thus leaving a paper trail the BATF can follow, showing that you no longer own it.
  6. Ronnie02

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    Im from South Carolina. Its a 32

    Thanks
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    Ronnie02 New Member

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    Another question may sound dumb but.....I have a few guns this one is really the only one I purchased from a dealer.


    I purchased this gun at a pawn shop, they made me do the back ground check..does that mean its registered in my name?
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    yes Ronnie it is. anytime a dealer (pawn shops are dealers also) do a background check the make, model, and ser# are included info required.
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    It depends on your State laws and the state laws of the person you are selling it to.If you sold it to a person in NY you would have to go through a FFL to a FFL.
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    Lemme see now. Far as I can tell, South Carolina does not have gun registration. Therefore that gun is not "registered" to you.

    There is a difference between "registration" and the 4473, which is what you filled out at the pawn shop.

    Unless South Carolina has a law that says you HAVE to buy from an FFL, all you have to do is give the guy the gun and take his money. California has a law that says all sales must go through an FFL. Most states, however, don't. My quick search did not turn up whether or not South Carolina requires it.
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    If you are selling across state lines - that is, if the buyer is not a South Carolina resident, then you must go through an FFL.
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    Thanks for the help!
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    Ronnie02, Alpo is right. There's no such thing as "registration" in South Carolina. Usually, that process is deferred to the more anti-gun leaning states of the Northeast and West Coast. The paperwork that you do when you buy the gun here is simply to process your background check. There is no registration system here in this state. I understand that the term "registration" is loosely thrown around on TV and it provides a lot of confusion for people who live in states with no registration system.

    So, if you want to sell a gun to a person within this state you find a buyer and exchange cash for the gun. I don't sell my guns but if I did I'd prefer dealing with someone that I know isn't a felon. Across, state lines?... Yes, Alpo is absolutely correct in that a dealer must be involved.
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  14. hunter29180

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    Guys, hate to bust a bubble but when the background check is done in SC a record is kept by the dealer. if that weapon is used in a crime it can be traced through either the serial # or sometimes from tha baliatics marks on it through the manufacturer. it traces it back to the dealer. and if ever a Leo or wildlife officer checks the ser# it will be forever more in the states (and avail to the Feds) computer, so SC does have a "registration" of sorts, and the Feds keep a list of the ser# contained in the background check also.

    this info from a retired EC Leo friend.
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    Ronnie..in SC as long as the sale is face to face and the person is known to you not to be a felon and in the state of SC. the state really dont care. this applies only to SC though. I have bought and traded guns at flea markets with people from out of state (bought only or traded) with my Leo friend many times. course he did me the favor of having the ser# checked before the transaction was done though. I have no desire to buy a gun used in a crime and be caught with it!

    this may have been a exception though as i havent did that for about 10 years though! chesk with a friendly Leo before you accept my word though. i was well known to the local Leos at that time!
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    Hunter, that's true, however no one here that I'm aware of actually goes to a dealer to do a transfer. What they do is keep a personal record of when they sold the weapon and to whom. It's still not "registration" as defined by Hollywood. What you speak of is why I don't sell any of my guns. I know other people however, who don't keep one for a year before they're wanting to sell it to someone else. Private sales are not formally regulated in this state.
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    It is quite possible the Feds keep a list from the background check. It's illegal, but it's possible. By Federal law, they have 72 hours to say yes or no, and then all the info is supposed to be purged from the records.

    We don't have NICS, here in Florida. Our background checks are done by FDLE. I've been the guy doing the call-in numerous times. They want to know many things. But the make, model, caliber and serial number of the gun is not among them. They ask whether it is a long gun or a hand gun, but that's because of the age difference required to purchase one.

    But that's not "registration".

    I did a swap with a guy from Michigan. Neither of us were in our home states, at the time. I suggested he take mine and I'd take his and we'd go home happy. Yes, that would be breaking Federal law, but so what? It didn't happen. Where he lived, guns were registered. His state knew everything he had. Rifle/pistol/shotgun/muzzleloader/didn't matter. They knew. And if he got rid of one of them, they wanted to know that, too. So, the pistol I wanted had to be signed out of his possession, through a dealer. The pistol I was giving him had to be signed into his possession, through an FFL. And it did not matter whether I lived in Florida or right next door. That's the way they had to do it. So I took my gun home and had my dealer ship it to his, while he took his gun home and had his dealer ship it to mine. That way all the "I"s were crossed and the "T"s were dotted, and Michigan knew where that New Service went, and that he now had a SAA.

    That's registration.
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    As adealer, let me say that by filling out the form 4473 and having a back ground check does not make a gun "registered" to you UNLESS your sttae has a law requiring all guns sold to you be registered with the state. All the form 4473 is is a record for the dealer and the back ground check is to ensure you have the legal right to buy that firearm. Unless your sttae requires you to register that gun, you can sell it to who ever you want BUT to be safe you need to at least make sure they are old enough, ask if the can legally buy a firearm, and if possible get their contact info including address. What the form 4473 dioes help do for the buyer is if your firearm was stolen and you know the dealer you bought it from, then you can get the seriel numbers to turn in to the LEOs should you not have written them down in a safe place before hand. Once we dealers turn in our FFLs of fail to renew, we are required to send to the BATF our log book/s and the forms 4473 that we have on file to the BATF where mthey are NOT supposed to be recorded on anything else. With the way the BATF has been in the past with things like "Fast & Furious" scandel, who knows what they do.
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    I wouldn't trust the feds as far as I could throw em. The Courts told them years ago they couldn't keep any of the records collected during routine purchases but I have read that BATF has never complied! Our Federal Govenrment doesn't follow the same laws we do or the ones they are suppose to. They consider themselves ABOVE The Law as with the "Fast & Furious" mentioned above. Don't tell them anymore about yourself than you have to and try to stay below their radar!
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