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  1. Indian Creek 1

    Indian Creek 1 Member

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    Here's your CHANGE!





    Interesting Legislation

    Unbelievable.....guess we should have expected it after the presidential election.

    DIDN'T TAKE LONG, DID IT!

    Unfortunately, the Bill outlined below is not a joke. Check out section 3, Article 7 C and D --compensation for the aggrieved. Section 4 cites the establishment of a 7 member Commission to determine the former--selection of the 7 members to be made by the President, Speaker of the House and the President pro tem of the Senate, ie, the vice-president--isn't that precious--bound to come up with a fair and balanced decision. Section 8 allows $8 million to do the research--can't wait to see what the "appropriate remedies" will cost.

    CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN !!!!!

    Didn't take long, did it? ---THIS IS A REAL BILL

    Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act (Introduced in House)

    HR 40 IH

    111th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    H. R. 40

    To acknowledge the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865 and to establish a commission to examine the institution of slavery, subsequently de jure and de facto racial and economic discrimination against African-Americans, and the impact of these forces on living African-Americans, to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies, and for other purposes.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    January 6, 2009

    Mr. CONYERS (for himself and Mr. SCOTT of Virginia ) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary


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    A BILL

    To acknowledge the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865 and to establish a commission to examine the institution of slavery, subsequently de jure and de facto racial and economic discrimination against African-Americans, and the impact of these forces on living African-Americans, to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies, and for other purposes.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the `Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act'.

    SEC. 2. FINDINGS AND PURPOSE.

    (a) Findings- The Congress finds that--

    (1) approximately 4,000,000 Africans and their descendants were enslaved in the United States and colonies that became the United States from 1619 to 1865;

    (2) the institution of slavery was constitutionally and statutorily sanctioned by the Government of the United States from 1789 through 1865;

    (3) the slavery that flourished in the United States constituted an immoral and inhumane deprivation of Africans' life, liberty, African citizenship rights, and cultural heritage, and denied them the fruits of their own labor; and

    (4) sufficient inquiry has not been made into the effects of the institution of slavery on living African-Americans and society in the United States .

    (b) Purpose- The purpose of this Act is to establish a commission to--

    (1) examine the institution of slavery which existed from 1619 through 1865 within the United States and the colonies that became the United States , including the extent to which the Federal and State Governments constitutionally and statutorily supported the institution of slavery;

    (2) examine de jure and de facto discrimination against freed slaves and their descendants from the end of the Civil War to the present, including economic, political, and social discrimination;

    (3) examine the lingering negative effects of the institution of slavery and the discrimination described in paragraph (2) on living African-Americans and on society in the United States;

    (4) recommend appropriate ways to educate the American public of the Commission's findings;

    (5) recommend appropriate remedies in consideration of the Commission's findings on the matters described in paragraphs (1) and (2); and

    (6) submit to the Congress the results of such examination, together with such recommendations.

    SEC. 3. ESTABLISHMENT AND DUTIES.

    (a) Establishment- There is established the Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African-Americans (hereinafter in this Act referred to as the `Commission').

    (b) Duties- The Commission shall perform the following duties:

    (1) Examine the institution of slavery which existed within the United States and the colonies that became the United States from 1619 through 1865. The Commission's examination shall include an examination of--

    (A) the capture and procurement of Africans;

    (B) the transport of Africans to the United States and the colonies that became the United States for the purpose of enslavement, including their treatment during transport;

    (C) the sale and acquisition of Africans as chattel property in interstate and instrastate commerce; and

    (D) the treatment of African slaves in the colonies and the United States , including the deprivation of their freedom, exploitation of their labor, and destruction of their culture, language, religion, and families.

    (2) Examine the extent to which the Federal and State governments of the United States supported the institution of slavery in constitutional and statutory provisions, including the extent to which such governments prevented, opposed, or restricted efforts of freed African slaves to repatriate to their homeland.

    (3) Examine Federal and State laws that discriminated against freed African slaves and their descendants during the period between the end of the Civil War and the present.

    (4) Examine other forms of discrimination in the public and private sectors against freed African slaves and their descendants during the period between the end of the Civil War and the present.

    (5) Examine the lingering negative effects of the institution of slavery and the matters described in paragraphs (1), (2), (3), and (4) on living African-Americans and on society in the United States.

    (6) Recommend appropriate ways to educate the American public of the Commission's findings.

    (7) Recommend appropriate remedies in consideration of the Commission's findings on the matters described in paragraphs (1), (2), (3), and (4). In making such recommendations, the Commission shall address among other issues, the following questions:

    (A) Whether the Government of the United States should offer a formal apology on behalf of the people of the United States for the perpetration of gross human rights violations on African slaves and their descendants.

    (B) Whether African-Americans still suffer from the lingering effects of the matters described in paragraphs (1), (2), (3), and (4).

    (C) Whether, in consideration of the Commission's findings, any form of compensation to the descendants of African slaves is warranted.

    (D) If the Commission finds that such compensation is warranted, what should be the amount of compensation, what form of compensation should be awarded, and who should be eligible for such compensation.

    (c) Report to Congress- The Commission shall submit a written report of its findings and recommendations to the Congress not later than the date which is one year after the date of the first meeting of the Commission held pursuant to section 4(c).

    SEC. 4. MEMBERSHIP.

    (a) Number and Appointment- (1) The Commission shall be composed of 7 members, who shall be appointed, within 90 days after the date of enactment of this Act, as follows:

    (A) Three members shall be appointed by the President.

    (B) Three members shall be appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

    (C) One member shall be appointed by the President pro tempore of the Senate.

    (2) All members of the Commission shall be persons who are especially qualified to serve on the Commission by virtue of their education, training, or experience, particularly in the field of African-American studies.

    (b) Terms- The term of office for members shall be for the life of the Commission. A vacancy in the Commission shall not affect the powers of the Commission, and shall be filled in the same manner in which the original appointment was made.

    (c) First Meeting- The President shall call the first meeting of the Commission within 120 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, or within 30 days after the date on which legislation is enacted making appropriations to carry out this Act, whichever date is later.

    (d) Quorum- Four members of the Commission shall constitute a quorum, but a lesser number may hold hearings.

    (e) Chair and Vice Chair- The Commission shall elect a Chair and Vice Chair from among its members. The term of office of each shall be for the life of the Commission.

    (f) Compensation- (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), each member of the Commission shall receive compensation at the daily equivalent of the annual rate of basic pay payable for GS-18 of the General Schedule under section 5332 of title 5, United States Code, for each day, including travel time, during which he or she is engaged in the actual performance of duties vested in the Commission.

    (2) A member of the Commission who is a full-time officer or employee of the United States or a Member of Congress shall receive no additional pay, allowances, or benefits by reason of his or her service to the Commission.

    (3) All members of the Commission shall be reimbursed for travel, subsistence, and other necessary expenses incurred by them in the performance of their duties to the extent authorized by chapter 57 of title 5, United States Code.

    SEC. 5. POWERS OF THE COMMISSION.

    (a) Hearings and Sessions- The Commission may, for the purpose of carrying out the provisions of this Act, hold such hearings and sit and act at such times and at such places in the United States, and request the attendance and testimony of such witnesses and the production of such books, records, correspondence, memoranda, papers, and documents, as the Commission considers appropriate. The Commission may request the Attorney General to invoke the aid of an appropriate United States district court to require, by subpoena or otherwise, such attendance, testimony, or production.

    (b) Powers of Subcommittees and Members- Any subcommittee or member of the Commission may, if authorized by the Commission, take any action which the Commission is authorized to take by this section.

    (c) Obtaining Official Data- The Commission may acquire directly from the head of any department, agency, or instrumentality of the executive branch of the Government, available information which the Commission considers useful in the discharge of its duties. All departments, agencies, and instrumentalities of the executive branch of the Government shall cooperate with the Commission with respect to such information and shall furnish all information requested by the Commission to the extent permitted by law.

    SEC. 6. ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS.

    (a) Staff- The Commission may, without regard to section 5311(b) of title 5, United States Code, appoint and fix the compensation of such personnel as the Commission considers appropriate.

    (b) Applicability of Certain Civil Service Laws- The staff of the Commission may be appointed without regard to the provisions of title 5, United States Code, governing appointments in the competitive service, and without regard to the provisions of chapter 51 and subchapter III of chapter 53 of such title relating to classification and General Schedule pay rates, except that the compensation of any employee of the Commission may not exceed a rate equal to the annual rate of basic pay payable for GS-18 of the General Schedule under section 5332 of title 5, United States Code.

    (c) Experts and Consultants- The Commission may procure the services of experts and consultants in accordance with the provisions of section 3109(b) of title 5, United States Code, but at rates for individuals not to exceed the daily equivalent of the highest rate payable under section 5332 of such title.

    (d) Administrative Support Services- The Commission may enter into agreements with the Administrator of General Services for procurement of financial and administrative services necessary for the discharge of the duties of the Commission. Payment for such services shall be made by reimbursement from funds of the Commission in such amounts as may be agreed upon by the Chairman of the Commission and the Administrator.

    (e) Contracts- The Commission may--

    (1) procure supplies, services, and property by contract in accordance with applicable laws and regulations and to the extent or in such amounts as are provided in appropriations Acts; and

    (2) enter into contracts with departments, agencies, and instrumentalities of the Federal Government, State agencies, and private firms, institutions, and agencies, for the conduct of research or surveys, the preparation of reports, and other activities necessary for the discharge of the duties of the Commission, to the extent or in such amounts as are provided in appropriations Acts.

    SEC. 7. TERMINATION.

    The Commission shall terminate 90 days after the date on which the Commission submits its report to the Congress under section 3(c).

    SEC. 8. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.

    To carry out the provisions of this Act, there are authorized to be appropriated $8,000,000.
  2. 45nut

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    Good Grief. Will these Morons never stop? :eek: :mad:
  3. RunningOnMT

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    Oh brother. Since they feel we can undo history shall we just give native Americans their land back plus rent for several hundred years?

    There is no question that slavery was a despicable thing and no man has a right to own another, but the fact that it happened can't be undone. As far as reparations for damages; for what will we be paying the descendants of slaves? For the opportunity to live in America? Would they have wished that slavery had never happened so that they would have been born in another country like Ethiopia or Zimbabwe? Maybe they haven't seen or heard about the living conditions in their native lands.

    The time for reparations was 150 years ago. After immancipation they should have paid a reasonable sum to every former slave and transported them back home.

    While they are at it I wonder if we can get England to pay me for what they did to my Scottish and Irish ancestors.
  4. Kingpin46

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    With everything going on in the Country and the World, this is what the politicos spend their time on? Typical, just throw money (that we don't have) at the perceived problem. That will make it go away........I have a better idea. Let the black community file a class action lawsuit against the Federal Govt. When there is no more money to pay the lawyers we can just start over from scratch. By then we may all be speaking Chinese........ Just so I don't sound biased, let's urge the illegals to do the same thing. After all they were paid less, treated poorly, etc, etc. After the lawyers are done (in a class action) each plaintiff can take his $37.00 settlement and feel good about having done his/her share in helping bankrupt a once powerful and proud country.
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  5. paulrw

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    I have an idea. Let's give every afro-american slave say 100 million dollars!!!! That is, any LIVING slave, any that can PROVE they were a slave after 1865. Can it be done???? Didn't think so.

    Maybe we should put all african americans, including and esp. bama boy, back on ships and send them all back to africa???
  6. Mr. Nameless

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    Hey i just do what I'm told if I don't feel it to be wrong, so could someone sum this up for me?
  7. Just One Shot

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    WELL!

    He did say he wanted to spread the wealth!
  8. 94z07

    94z07 New Member

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    This bill is marked PAID IN FULL

    This debt was paid in blood at Antietam, Gettysburg, Manassas, Shiloh, Cold Harbor, Bethesda Church, Fredericksburg, Atlanta, and many other places.

    Wanna talk over payment? Tally the social engineering programs into the mix.
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    Why is it that most Negro people do not appear to be grateful for the incredidble sacrifice made by white people to free them? The hundreds of thousands of white people that were brutally killed in the Civil War so the Negros could be free. Why isnt there a white appreciation day celebrated by Negros?? Why on earth would there be this foolish study?????
  10. Islandboy

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    When all productive people go away, leaving only the engineers of disaster, the disaster will be successful, but the engineers will be pissed.
    Will they then get it?
    I doubt it.
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    :eek: i think the term negro is outdated :D:D:D
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