Remington Derringer

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  1. toymvr

    toymvr New Member

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    Hi Guys
    I have had this Derringer for 20 yrs. I have seen them for $900. to $3500. How do you tell? I think it's a model 41 not sure. It's is 98%. Ser# XXX. Does not look like it has ever been Shot. I also have a box 50Pc. of 41 Short Rimfire Remington Arms Co. Inc. Bridgeport, Conn.

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  2. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

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    First, SN is irrelevant. Remington only numbered to 999, and then started over.

    The address on the barrel tells the age. There are four (if my rememberer is workin') different addresses. Remington. Remington UMC. One line. Two lines. I don't recall exactly, 'cause I ain't a derringer collector.

    It looks to be in fine shape, and the hinge doesn't look broken, which is a HUGE plus.

    I'd say closer to 35 than 9.
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    toymvr New Member

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    Wording on barrel

    E REMINGTON & SONS ILION, NY.
    ELLIOTS PATENT DEC. 12 1865
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    Jim K New Member

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    There is a huge collector interest in those guns, but even so $3500 would be a bit high; I suspect that was an asking price not a getting price. Yours looks very good, but a look at or description of the barrel marking would help with the value.

    Jim
  5. Popeye

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    From the Thirtieth Edition of the Blue Book of Gun Values

    ELLIOT'S OVER AND UNDER DERRINGER - cartridge .41 Rimfire cal., 2 shot, 3 in. superimposed barrels, oscillating firing pin, spur trigger, blue and/or nickel finish, hard rubber, walnut, ivory or pearl 2-piece grips. Approx 112,000 produced, 1867-1935. William Elliot's patent.

    E. Remington & Sons Production Sixth Variation - two line address (top of barrel):: "E. REMINGTON & SONS. ILION. N.Y. ELLIOT'S PATENT DEC 12TH 1865", made with extractor (12,000 to 18,000 produced between 1870 and 1888), sequential numbering ended with this address.

    100% - NA
    98% - NA
    95% - $3500
    90% - $3250
    80% - $3000
    70% - $2750
    60% - $2500
    50% - $2000
    40% - $1500
    30% - $1300
    20% - $1100
    10% - $900
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    RJay Well-Known Member

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    And you could probably get 2 bucks a pop for those 41 rim fire cartridges.
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    The ammunition box is also worth money to a collector. A full, unbroken box will command a premium.
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    hrf Well-Known Member

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    The current Flayderman's Guide lists examples marked as you listed in two lines on top of barrel as the "Type I, late production, a.k.a. Model No. 2" and lists values for Good as $325 and for Fine as $850
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    If that derringer is for sale for $850, I want to be first in line to purchase it!
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    toymvr New Member

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    Thanks Guys you gave me a lot of Great information :)
    Jim
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    I would say that if you divided these amounts by about three up to 80% and cut the 90% or better in half which is what they bring in the real world.

    The one pictured is very nice and it might bring 2K to the right guy but I think that would be all the money for the gun. That is just my opinion from having bought and sold a few of them.

    Ron
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  12. Smokin_Gun

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    There isn't room enough on my Rem Derringer .41R for all a that stamping... Mine says Remington Arms Co. Lions N.Y.
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    It may be up for sale soon...
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    May not be up for sale and have 4 boxes of ammo arriving today from the last time it was made for NAvy Arms 25 years ago...
    It's a keeper for me now... but everything does have it price I guess.
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    Here's some pis of the Dem and some Navy arm Ammo I got the other Day ... what do you think 4 boxes od that .41 Short Rimfire would be worth.
    Navy Arms said they ran out of that ammo 20 years ago ..thids was purchased 25 years ago by a friend a mine.
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  15. toymvr

    toymvr New Member

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    could probably get 2 bucks a pop for those 41 rim fire cartridges.
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