Rifle easier to find than .357

Discussion in 'Large-Bore/Small-Bore Rifle/Shotgun' started by Kristie, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. ozo

    ozo Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2011
    Nashville TN
    When you go to the store to look at ammo
    for your tubular magazine Rossi .357............
    Simply, all you want to make sure of is that
    the 'nose' of the projectile WILL NOT be pointed
    in shape as to contact the primer on the round
    in front of it, in the tubular magazine.
    Easy.....open the box of ammo, take out two
    rounds, and hold them in line to one another,
    putting the nose of one against the primer of
    another, and see if you think it would hit the
    primer upon any impact or shock...in the magazine.
    The .38 and the .357 are REVOLVER rounds, and in a
    revolver cylinder, they never touch each other.....
    but end to end in a tube mag.....upon recoil shock,
    one projectile can ignite the primer in front of it.....
    if that makes clear sense, if the projectile is pointed
    enough to impact the primer it is resting against.
    It is rare to ever happen.....but can.
  2. ozo

    ozo Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2011
    Nashville TN
    Not a guessing game, just physics....
    plain, simple.
    For those of us that re-load, it is so
    easy....we pick our components for the task
    at hand.
    Once you grasp what to look for......
    it's a cake walk into town. :):)

  3. ozo

    ozo Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2011
    Nashville TN
    You just keep going forward
    on the path that you are on.......
    You have done an incredible job so far......
    And you keep asking and you keep telling.....
    For someone that hasn't 'been one' [shooter]
    for even a year yet......you are far ahead of
    so many that I see on a regular basis.....that have been
    on their path for far longer than you.
    Kudos to you and your achievements so far.....
    Now, the GP-100..........
    you will be so happy........:)
  4. JLA

    JLA Well-Known Member

    Feb 26, 2007
    Heart Of Texas
    cant say i have directly. Im sure I have and if I go thru my notes ill be able to put the 2 together but I have not compared them directly.

    Generally the higher the pressure the higher the velocity. So lets talk .45s for a sec, a 230 gr bullet with a stubby nose profile and a long bearing surface will run at a higher velocity than a 230 gr bullet with a long round nose profile and a shorter bearing surface, powder charges being equal..
  5. RunningOnMT

    RunningOnMT New Member

    Nov 19, 2008
    Akron, Ohio
    That's great news ozo because I love Hornady ammo...quality stuff at a comparatively reasonable price.
  6. Kristie

    Kristie Member

    May 23, 2012

    Wow, thanks - it doesn't feel like I know what I'm doing at all. Maybe I'm a faster learner than I realized. Guess I'm young enough to adapt, or something.

    I might be rethinking the GP-100 after seeing how much the .357 kicks in the Rossi. I don't know now. I might consider a heavier-framed revolver. But the downside is it might be too heavy, then. Grrr, decisions decisions. Could be I just need to get used to the round a little more. We'll see.
  7. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    NW Florida
    Well, that's two of us.

    I was quite shocked to find out how much recoil the 92 has in 357. It's pretty close to a 94 in 30/30. It's a heavier bullet, and while it's not quite as fast, the gun is about a pound lighter. To put it plainly, that gun kicks.

    Now, I got 92s in 32/20, 357, 38/40, 44/40, 44 magnum and 45 Colt. None of the others, and that includes the 44 magnum, kick as much as the 357. I mostly shoot 38s in mine, simply because it is more comfortable.

    Don't get me wrong. It's not like touching off a 458 Win Mag, but it's not like shooting a 22, either.

    But I had about decided, based on stuff others post, that I was the only one in the world with a 357 rifle that kicked.
  8. Kristie

    Kristie Member

    May 23, 2012
    Now that is very interesting! Here I thought I was just being a wimp or something. ;) Or that maybe the rounds of 357 I was using had too many grains. So maybe I'm worrying about the revolver unnecessarily. Hmmmmm. I didn't think it was that uncomfortable, but I found myself hesitating longer to pull the trigger trying to get myself ready for the kick. It probably could've gotten uncomfortable, but I only tried 10 rounds. I'm sure I'll be shooting mostly 38s in it anyway.
  9. aa1911

    aa1911 Well-Known Member

    Dec 12, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    no, I meant breach; the chamber end, not from the muzzle.

    He had said one of the reasons to clean from the chamber/breach end was that it ensured there wasn't a round in there versus cleaning from the muzzle or business end would not until you already had the cleaning device inside the bore.

    It's just my opinion that if that's even a reason to clean from the chamber end, firearms safety needs some serious attention.

    I hear stories all the time where someone was 'cleaning' their gun when it went off! Darwinism at it's finest...
  10. RunningOnMT

    RunningOnMT New Member

    Nov 19, 2008
    Akron, Ohio
    Gotcha. He was a nitwit.
  11. Kristie

    Kristie Member

    May 23, 2012
  12. JLA

    JLA Well-Known Member

    Feb 26, 2007
    Heart Of Texas
    Careful with recoil anticipation. It will create near unbreakable shooting habits. Focus on your sight alinment with the target. Gently apply more and more pressure to the trigger while you concentrate on your sight picture. If that rifle goes off and startles you every time youre doing everything right.
  13. ozo

    ozo Well-Known Member

    Jan 20, 2011
    Nashville TN
    And the GP-100 is a pussycat to shoot.....
    If you need a larger gun than that, you need a
    Blackhawk, and it may not balance for you yet....

    The GP-100 [GP-141 Blued finish, KGP-141 stainless steel]
    is a very well balanced gun, and plenty heavy enough to
    deal with the recoil.

    A .357 magnum is NO WUSSIE ROUND....and must be
    respected as such. As you have seen firing it.....
    a pistol round, in a rifle.
    You have experience with a .22lr......now you shoot
    a .357......an enormous step up in all ballistic
    areas, and the .357 has spoken to you !

    Not to worry.....
    You just need to acclimate. Get used to it.
    DO NOT anticipate the kick. Train yourself to slowly
    pull the trigger, and not ever know when it 'breaks' [fires]

    Shoot .38special [and not +P]
    Forget about great accuracy at this point....get used
    to your new gun.
    Try 125grain .38special and see how well it feeds in the 92.

    Same philosophy for the GP-100.......
    Shoot 125grain .38special until you get comfortable.

    Grow with your new 'power' gradually......
    The .357 is a powerhouse.
    The standard .38special is almost half of the .357
    Take it slowly, and have fun.....
    And stay in touch with us......
    As we will definitely guide you......in some direction :):):)
  14. aa1911

    aa1911 Well-Known Member

    Dec 12, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    The GP100 is about the heaviest of 'em out there, Ruger makes very beefy revolvers. For certain give it a serious consideration especially for taming recoil, it's a fine piece of machinery.

    38's are a great way to work up to the .357 which is no slouch by any means, don't feel bad about getting a little bite from it. It's a powerhouse as far as pistols are concerned.

    Some Hogue grips on it (or any other revolver for that matter) will help keep a handle on that sucker while shooting, very good priced and much better than the stock grips.
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