Rifle for shots up to 1000yds

Discussion in 'Competition Shooting Forum' started by kings, Aug 17, 2006.

  1. Tom Militano

    Tom Militano New Member

    Feb 26, 2007
    Jacksonville, AL
    We regularly shot national match M14's in competition at 600 and 1000 yards in the military, with iron sights. Twenty rounds off the 600 yard line was part of the national match course.
  2. graehaven

    graehaven Well-Known Member

    May 26, 2007
    Rochester, NY
    Holy crap! 600 yards with iron sights??? How big is the friggin' target?

  3. stash247

    stash247 New Member

    Oct 18, 2003
    Central Texas
    Gunfighter, most of the tactical cops here use the Federal 168gr BTSP, their 'Premium' line; the cops, tho, are seldom shooting as far as 200 yds,in an urban environment.
    In a .308, the 190 HPBT, or a 220 HPBT, from Sierra will give excellent results in a 10" or faster twist barrel, my choice for these would likely be 9 1/2", and if I were looking, Bartlein Barrels is a good place to start; I believe their product is as good as all but a very tiny number(less than three), in the business.
    Graehaven, the "V" ring on the targets at Perry, at a thousand, is 16 inches; the 600 yd target, and the total black on the 1000, I'd have to look up.
    We still shoot 500 meters, BRCR Silouhette, at a 42 " tall ram, with such cartridges as the 40-70, 40-65, 45-70, 90, 110, and some have shot possibles!
    Guess you been in the mountains for a while, huh???
    I do know that a guy I soldiered with, many years ago, had a 'confirmed' one shot kill at 1380 yds, and this I am sure of, because it was measured with a transit, by me.
    .50 cal, BMG, in a VERY expensive, bolt gun, but the NVA Colonel's head came plumb off!
    This guy could have beat Tubbs, 40 years ago, with the gear we had then, and, even with todays gear for Tubbs, likely would wax his backside, were he still alive.
    The magic is in the wind, and the mirage, and the reading, holding, clicking for it, once you get out past 400.
    I know some old guys, 70's and 80's, whom I know better than to bet against, because they read conditions like you or I might read a menu, only quicker! I pray someday to be half as good, for this is the soul of long distance accuracy.
  4. MRMIKE08075

    MRMIKE08075 Active Member

    Aug 26, 2005
    New Jersey
    lets clarify things...

    we are looking for a rifle that will:

    put 20 rounds into a 10" or smaller circle (MINUTE OF ANGLE or better) at 1000 yds...

    dont include the shooter in the equation, lets talk strictly about the shooting platform.

    the MOSIN NAGANT 91/30 SNIPER RIFLE will not meet the above referenced specification even if bolted down and using custom handloads...

    the M1-D will not do it either...

    i dont believe the K31 SCHMIDT-RUBIN would make the cut...

    all 3 actions might make suitible platforms for custom built rifles that could do it...

    but in there stock, as issued configuration under the most perfect conditions none of them can rise to the challenge.

    best regards, mike.
  5. primerate2

    primerate2 New Member

    Sep 18, 2006
    Mitchell, South Dakota
    I have been shooting a sleved XP-100 with a jewel trigger and a 30m inch Schneider 30 cal barrel with a 13 trist. It is chambered in 308 and it is a 1/2 minite rifle. I once shot a 150-13X prone at 800. Thats 13 xs out of 15 shots and the other 2 were 10s. My best 1000m rifle is a 6.5X284. It a blueprinted sleven Rem 700 with a Kenyon trigger and a double froozen 30 inch Krieger 8 tiwst barrel. I am confident it will hit a 4 inch spoter at 1000. Well in a no wind condition on a bench I think its a 5 inch 10 round gun.
    Last year the winning long range carterage was a 6mm. Tubbs has his own 6XC casses made and he was shooting a 115 gr Sierra bullet in I believe a 7.5 twist. The rifle I hope to bring to my number 1 XC rifle and long range rifle is a 40X with a 30 inch Obermeyer barrel chambered for a 6X22-250. We will see. So far groups are just ok.
  6. MarineD316

    MarineD316 New Member

    Jun 22, 2007
    Louisville, KY
    I've had a Rem 700 in .308 for some while... it works well for me however I'm in the process of purchasing a SIG Blaser R93 Tactical 2 that I believe will do what you're looking for. I purchased 2 chamberings for it .308 & .338 Lapua. The .338 I plan to use for the longer ranges. I like the SIG because it is so modular. Just MHO.
  7. Tom Militano

    Tom Militano New Member

    Feb 26, 2007
    Jacksonville, AL
    Graehaven, the 10 ring at 600 yards is 12" and the 10 ring at 1000 yards is
    20". Sorry for the long delay in replying.
  8. JLA

    JLA Well-Known Member

    Feb 26, 2007
    Heart Of Texas
    if you want to go nostalgia look into a Shiloh or a Davide Pedersoli Sharps in 40/70, or 45/70... if you like the tactical approach look into a rem. M24 .308 or a Win. M70 stealth2 also in .308, and if you just want a rifle that can punch holes accurately at 1000 yds and still have enough energy to punch through a 1/2" plate of steel then look into one of the many .50 BMG rifles availabe. i myself like the ways of the old, having a 45/70 and a SMLE .303 that i regularly compete with, as well as hunt with...
  9. ruger22com

    ruger22com New Member

    May 21, 2007
    I shoot 1,000 yard at my club with a remington 700 in 7mm rem magnum. It does quite well.
  10. I use the AR-30, and the AR-50...and share the ATN scope...;)

  11. stash247

    stash247 New Member

    Oct 18, 2003
    Central Texas
    Would I be pissing in anybody's corn flakes, if I suggested the .50 BMG, was the way to go?
    I have shot at the distance, both at paper, and meat, most satisfactoraly, except for the fact that the .308 is 'on the wane', lacking energy, at that range; can I hit it?, heck, yes, but 'dump it', a different queston, entirely.
    With the .50BMG, the only question is about 'point of impact'; the energy is there!
    If you are 'humping' it, the .50 is a bit of a load, but the bottom line is purpose, and results, for which it is the ultimate amswer.
  12. JLA

    JLA Well-Known Member

    Feb 26, 2007
    Heart Of Texas
  13. I'm a custom rifle fan and currently shoot a Win. 70 in .308 at 1,000.

    If you'd like a reasonable priced rifle that will be very effective at 1,000 yards take a look at S... Sav... SSS... Ok. Savage. There I said it.

    Savage has recently introduces a production single shot rifle in 6.5-284 that comes with a heavy barrel and target stock called the 12 F Class Precision Target Rifle.
    I believe that Hornady is selling factory ammo in that caliber but plan on reloading your own with the heavy BTHP's.

    Also; DON'T GO CHEAP ON THE OPTICS! The scope is half of the shooting platform.

    My next custom 1,000 yard rifle? Win. 70 (pre 64) with a Pac-Nor heavy barrel, .300 Ackley Short Mag. and an old Unertl 12X. Just for fun...
  14. jeanp1948

    jeanp1948 New Member

    Sep 26, 2007
    I like the .270 myself. Built off the tried and true '06. John O'Connor couldn't say anything bad about it. In fact he was the premier promoter of this round back in the fifties. I never understood why Stoner didn't adapt the .270 instead of the .223 for the new NATO round we are now stuck with. I really believe that extra diameter would have made a world of difference without increasing the weight much more than it is now.
  15. ruger22com

    ruger22com New Member

    May 21, 2007
    The only problem with that, is that several ranges do not allow .50 rounds shot due to the extreme distence they can travel.

    My range is a 1,000 military style range that also rents out time to special forces, navy and coast guard training, and is a full blown NRA competition facility, with regular 600 and 1,000 yard matches.....but our range does not allow .50's.
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