Rough Weekend

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  1. VegasTech702

    VegasTech702 New Member

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    As some may recall, I recently bought a new car. I have driven it a little over 500 miles in a week. I decided to go to Utah to visit family. My brand new car decided it didn't want to go to Utah. As I was coming up the hill south of Mesquite, the cruise control went off and the check engine light popped on. After that the car had little power. I limped the car to an Autozone. It had about three codes in the computer, one of which being the throttle position sensor maslfunctioning. Needless to say about 2 hrs later my car was on a flatbed going back to Vegas. Once I got back to the dealership I was given a rental car only having to pay the sales tax, about $3/ per day. I drove all the back to Utah and made it. My grandpa and I decided to go out shooting in the hills behind his house. We had a great time shooting my pistols, then as we went to leave, his 2wd truck got stuck in the snow (with ice below it). we shoveled dirt underneath the tires for about 30 mins and finally got out. Today I get to go back to work in an hour.

    How was everyone else's weekend?
  2. Pat Hurley

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    Please remind us of the make and model of your new car so that we may all avoid it like the plague.

    Pat Hurley
  3. No shooting for me this weekend, Vegas. It's been snowing since Friday! :eek: :D My trigger finger has developed a terrible itch though. ;)
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    Sorry for the car troubles, Vegas. :( But at least you got to see family and do some shooting. :)
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    Thank God I bought a Honda Accord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I've heard about stuff like this coming from General Motors products... :mad:
    None of the so called "big 3" make cars like they used to!!!!
    I've taken note of the types of cars that are either broke down by the side of the road, or are being towed. In the hottest part of summer its a variety of brands... ALOT of Chevys and Fords break down and get towed. What catches my attention the most is the number of Dodge's that break down and never get towed because they are abandoned. They get towed and wind up in mass at the impound lot only to get auctioned off and wind up at
    the EASY CREDIT car lots.

    Even Toyota and Honda are not immune to making junk these days. Hondas new Civics have horrible ignition problems. They start when they dang well please.... and i've seen alot of Tacomas getting towed down here as well. I think the golden age of new cars has come and gone...??

    What really ticks me off the most is that its "usually" not even a drivetrain problem..... ITS THE STINKING ELECTRONICS !!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
    The Automakers think its cute to stick a zillion electronic sensors here and there for this and that. 5 seperate sensors just in the transmisson alone!!!!
    Solenoids that control shifting....fuel sensors....blah blah blah. And pickup trucks are not void of these crappy little electronic parts just because they are a truck either. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

    Allways buy the "COMPREHENSIVE" extended service agreement!!!!!!!

    mike
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  6. VegasTech702

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    Well, I think I made a mistake buying a Chevy that was made in South Korea. I really can't complain about the service I am getting. Fairway Chevrolet is bending over backwards to fix the car. Meanwhile I am drving a rental car that is a model better than mine and only paying the $3 dollars a day in taxes to do so. The dealer could have told me to go to the dealer in St George. They said they wanted to bring my car back to Vegas and pay for the tow to make sure I got my car serviced properly. GM would only pay to take me to the nearest dealer. I am going down there tomorrow to see what they found out about it.
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    I bought a new Civic mid 06 and have had good luck so far. If it wants to start on it's own I hope it is just before I get off from work. ( It would be nice to get in a warm car.):D :D
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    I spent my week end pushing a shopping cart behind my wife saying " yes dear" "no dear I am not tired" " no dear that doesn't make your butt look big"
    and the entire time I was think just wait till the next gun show gets to town

    :D :D :D :D
  9. LDBennett

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    "They don't make'up like they used to"

    Well, I disagree. Every vehicle I have ever owned except my current F150 Ford truck (55,000miles) had been back to the dealer for something, either initally or as the miles crept up. This F150 has never seen a dealer since it was purchased. NOTHING was wrong or has gone wrong. My first Chevy in the 1960's rings never seated, my Ford Ranchero had too big (physically) a motor for the engine bay making all work nearly impossible, my 1970 F-150 was pretty reliable in a utilitarian way but I got married and need a van for the ready made family that came with the ex-wife, the Dodge van eventually rusted itself to death (in dry California!) and suffered a poor suspension design that wore out regularly, my 1980's Buick needed a $2000 strut and alignment job, my Nissan Stanza ate three ignition modules in under 50,000 miles, my Ford Ranger needed an updated brake power booster (but was a really good truck none the less, albeit too small inside for big me), and my Dodge Dakota R/T factory lowered truck had serious chassis and drive line problems from the poor job the factory did on lowering it and they offered to buy it back because of the suspension problems (dumb me didn't take them up on it!).

    My 2003 F-150 Ford Super Crew always runs right (no stalls or poor fuel delivery, hot or cold, 100 ft elevation or 6000 ft elevation); is always in the right gear (unlike the kludgy 1999 Dodge 1960's trans with a bolt on overdrive unit); all the electric controls like windows, doors, mirror, etc. still work correctly; the fit and finish of the truck matches anything from Japan (but aren't most of the Japanese cars and truck now assembled here in the USA?); the paint is still bright and shiny regardless that I don't wash it regularly. It always runs right unlike older carburated cars, gets excellent mileage even when towing my 23 foot trailer (about 50% better than the Dodge van got when the Dodge pulled a 50% lighter trailer), has an excellent ride for a truck, handles like a sports car (well, almost), and has many creature comfort that I enjoy in my old age.

    In short my "new" Ford F-150 SuperCrew is certainly made better and flat better than any other vehicle I have owned in my 50 years of vehicle ownership!

    LDBennett
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    What i've been hearing about the civic is that it either runs flawlessly to a tee or it runs horribly. The ignition problems either happen several times a week or not at all. Its a roll of the dice i hear.
    The stories i've heard is that you can crank and crank the starter and nothing will happen. Wait and try an hour later and she'll start...or have it towed to the dealership and she'll start imediately... :rolleyes:

    New cars are waaaay to much money and having to play that kind of game with them to get them to work is not right. The whole reason for trading the old "jalopie" in on a new car is to get rid of these exact problems in the first place!!! I mean, the new car smell is nice, but dang...that ain't the sole reason for buying a new car.....

    The last time i was at the dealership scheduling some work i was talking to one of the mechanics. He was telling me that several lines have problems that they were being swamped with. The Pilots have rattling doors, the Accords have a similar problem that is actually a part of the power window tracks. Every time i take off and accelerate or deaccelerate it sounds like the doors are poping...but if you put your head to it you can tell its coming from the door window frame. :mad:
    Squeaks and rattles abound in my Accord to say the least!!!!!!!!!!!
    BUT.... it runs good and i will say this much...those anti lock breaks work EXCELLENTLY !!!!!!!!! They're also 4 wheel disc breaks as well. This can can stop on a dime. Literally. :D

    No car these days is perfect. But there are some out there that are far less perfect than others.
    If you are having good luck with your civic...then i am happey for you. I am glad you are able to have missed the headaches!!!!! :) ;)

    mike
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  11. Pat Hurley

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    2006 Lexus RX330 - Zero problems
    2001 Ford Excursion Limited-7.3 Power Stroke Diesel - Zero problems
    1986 Alfa Romeo Spider Quadrifoglio - Zero problems (but lots of casual sex due to ownership)

    Conclusion: don't buy Chevy, ever. If one is given to you, say thank you and then decline it. But defintely buy an Alfa, then lots of Vitamin E, Viagra, and Vaseline.

    Pat Hurley
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    Well, all i can say is congratulations. I just hope you're having the same luck when that f150 reaches 90k miles....
    I have a friend who has one and I have seen all the stickers on the new ones as well as scoured over Fords website.... I think you're "FIBBING" a bit about the good mileage.... :D My friends gets 12.9 mpg "highway" and he just loves the way the hood shakes going down the interstate at 65mph... :rolleyes:

    There are alot of vehicles from the past as you say that were not all that great. Gm, Ford, especially Chrysler, and even Nissan have all had their problems... in certain models. To me thats the key.... "certain models".
    My choice in the older cars was mainly Pontiac Grand Prixs, Montys, and an Impala.
    Most had the chevy 305, and the 350 in the case of the impala. Those old 305's if treated right would always go past 200k miles. When i was younger i did alot of driving and i had one that made it past 300k miles when i sold it for a new one. They always got arround 18-19 mpg city and about 24mpg highway. Nothing that set the world on fire but not bad either...especially when gas was still arround $0.80 to $0.90 a gallon.... Man i miss those days!!!!!!

    But then there were other gm products that did not fare as well.... ANTHING in that crappy V6 of theirs...especially the Regal. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
    To this day i do not trust Gm's V6. Before i bought the Accord i test drove a Pontiac G6 that had their v6 in it. It was a DOG DOG DOG..... :mad: :mad:
    Besides being uncomfordable, that v6 of theirs had less acceleration than my Accords 4cylinder. Chevys Silverado with the v6 is the exact same way. Stomp on it and it'll make a TON OF NOISE.... but do NOTHING!!!!!!!!
    Their 4800 v8 engine "the 289" ain't much better.... But step up to their 5200 v8 "the 327" in a standard cab and she'll almost pick the front wheels up off the ground!!!! Go figure? Alot of difference between their king cab and the standard cab. That extra 800 lbs just kills the thrill... Plus, evertime i went there to look at one there was a towtruck pulling up with a vehicle that could not make it there on its own. That got to me after a while..... :(

    Yeah, i looked at a new Ford on the ford lot. A standard cab pickup with a
    v6 and the mileage rating was 12 city and 14 highway... needless to say... i passed on that one!!!!!

    mike
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  13. glocknut

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    LOL at Mr Pat Hurley !!!!!! :D :D :D :D
    I very much doubt the Vaseline part though..... :eek: :D :D ;)

    Research is the key. Even as simple a research as looking at Yahoos user reports. Alot of the time you will need to read between the lines as there are some idiots that either claim their car or truck is overly bad or overly good based on them having only a mere 200 miles on the car. If they've had it in the shop 3 times in that 200 miles i'd agree, but nobody can say their car is flawless after only 200 miles. Sheeesh.... :rolleyes:

    What Ldb was saying about his Ford was probably right. At 55k miles he's doing ok.... i just hope he's doing as well at 90k and beyond.... A vehicle really should make it to 160k without major problems. The older ones we had did...and i expect it of them. Period. Its gravy past 160k and very much appreciated when they do. But that ain't what i hear of the new fords these days... :(

    I think Toyota has had the best quality in the last few years, but now that they are getting bigger they need to watch that aspect of their cars. They even admitted recently that they were going to step up their quality control because they knew they were getting bigger and didn't want quality to go to pot... I hope they mean it and fulfill that promise.
    I like my Accord, but waaay to many squeaks and rattles. Next time i will go with a Toyota if their quality stays as good as it is now. The Camry is hard to beat quality wise. And thats the truth....

    mike
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    I used to have a "Toyota can do no wrong" viewpoint before I made my entire company's fleet Toyota Rav4's. If you pamper them, don't drive them hard, do ALL the preventative maintenance precisely when it's due, and generally baby it, it will last a long time with a minimum of problems. But drive them hard or delay oil changes by 2000 miles and you'll want to keep sharp objects out of reach. They become trouble-plagued rattle traps. Even when you do all the preventative maintenance the Toyota's still have their glaring weaknesses. If I have replaced an entire rack and pinion system in one, I've replaced a dozen. THEY ARE WEAK AND WORTHLESS. Also, Toyota four cylinder engines are prone to have sludge build-up in the oil pan and then catastrophic failures. I've replaced three engines.

    In short, I think their soft - the antithesis of rough and tough. Oh, and they ain't gonna get you laid like the Alfa will. That's for damn sure.

    Pat Hurley
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    NEVER doubt the Vaseline part.

    Pat Hurley
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