Ruger Old Army

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    Tim Schlosser
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    Hi all,
    First poster here looking for some info on my new toy. I just bought the Old Army after salivating over it for about five years. I've never fired one, but have been into italian .36's for several years.
    Anybody shoot these fine pistols? Any tricks or tweaks? Any good sources for accessories? My big question is, do the conicals shoot better than the roundballs? Thanks for any assistance.

    Tim


    the real fredneck
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    Hi Tim and welcome
    a buddy of mine has an Old Army and his experience was that conicals shoot better than roundballs, don't know of any tips/tweaks just that they are a well finished gun out of the box

    walter in florida
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    I do not know anything abut black power Cap and Ball pistols but the Sportman's Guide Catalog had one for sale a few years ago. It was as the Worlds strongest black power pistol. Recommended load 20 Grams BP,142 Gr. lead ball = 800 F.P.S with 200 Ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. Tim, I think you got the best one one the market.
  2. horsepowder

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    does it have the brass frame?

    I purchased a 1858 new army 2 year's ago (pietta)in .44 cal.

    I found out at 25 yard's the round ball's were more accurate .The (buffalo)
    ballet's! Shoot about 1.50-2.0 lowwer,but the group's were close to the same.with in a 1/2" or so.25 gr. fffg.t-7

    I herd of putting cornmeal over the powder charge to bring the ball's/ballet's
    closer to the end of the cylinder's.to were they just shave the tip of the ball's.
    do not reckamend this though.

    I know cabela's have some thing to go between the powder/bullet.
    I think they are called (pistol wad's) they are made out of wool.they reduce fouling,and bring the bullet closer to the end of the cylinder.no lube needed.
    for all .31 cal.to .45 cal. b.p. only $5.49 list price. per 100!
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  3. Danny

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    I have a early Ruger old army that I have not shot for awhile now.But when I loaded the chambers I would fill them almost full of tripple f and press the ball down as far as I could.Iwould then twist the cylinder until it shaved the lead off off the ball so it would turn okay.Very accurate and powerfull.Ruger uses the same frame on their 44 magnums.You cannot overload these fine handguns.
    Danny
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    Is it the stainless verson ?
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    Hi Al,
    No its a early 1970s blued model,but I have taken real good care of it.Just some blue wear at the muzzel from the holster.
    Regards
    Danny:)
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    Hiya Danny,

    I bought one of those for my dad on father's day back in the '70s. When he died it returned to my possession.

    It has never been fired but the cylinder has been turned and has left a light line. It has the brass trigger guard and such.

    I keep thinkin' I need to git off my tail and shoot the SOB. May this summer.
  7. Danny

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    It is a very accurate pistol even with me filling it to the brim.The only problem doing so is the capson the nipples from the other chambers are gone after the first shot.I guess a person would be better off using a 20 grain of tripple f as recomended.However I use double F.Take it out for some practice.Here in West Va we can deer hunt with them.Take Care
    Danny
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    Thanks Danny. I'll remember that. It is a purty piece tho.
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    Hi Berto,
    Ifmemory serves me correct,Ruger had a modified cylinder that you could swap out and shoot 45Long Colts cowboy ammo in.I think I may do some research and see if they still make them.Remember the Eastwood movie where at the end when he was getting ready to shoot the bad sheriff(the Lawman guy)he was taken and replacing the cylinder as he walked.I think it was High Plains Drifter?Anyway he was a preacher ghost that got some twang from the mining camp woman.I did not think ghost could kill,more less have sex?Anyway I will keep you posted if I find those cyclinders.
    Regards
    Danny:)
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    Thanks Danny.
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    I have just found out Ruger has discontinued making the Old Army 45!! Iam completely devastated!! I have had girls hurt my feelings in my life, but this is just heartbreaking!!! I have always wanted one! If anyone is selling a Ruger Old Army 45 Blued, fixed sights, 5 1/2 barrle let me know! I have written Ruger to try and find out why they stopped making the greatest, most reliable gun ever made... Iam boycotting Ruger from here on until I have my Ruger Old Army 45!!
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    I just noticed that too :( . I was browsing for info on the Vaquaro (picking one up tomorrow) when I ran across a reference to the Old Army being discontinued! :eek: . That's too bad. I was always thinking of picking one up someday. I have one of those 'cheap' Cabela's Remington '58 clones which shoots ok ... but was always thinking of the 'Cadillac' of black power revolver.... the Ruger Old Army stainless.
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    Went and did a little surfing tonite and Cabellas has several old army pistols.They even have one with the 45lc cylinder and the black powder one.Dixie Gun Works has the Vaquaro new.Hope this helps some?
    Regards
    Danny
  14. Larry in Michigan

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    An outfit called R & D makes the replacement cylinder for the ROA to
    shoot the .45 long Colt cartridges. The price is around $255.

    Larry in Michigan
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    I have two rugers one stainless and one blued and shoot them in competitons.
    They are the best blackpowder revolvers hands down. I use round balls .457 / 25 grns. fff goex blackpowder and cornmeal as filler. If you want to shoot at targets use round balls. If you want to hit something with a punch use conicals. Hope you enjoy it, :)
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    I have seen some NIB at several of the recent gun shows.
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    New fella here, Ive got the SS old Army, shoot it often and love it. I have good results with the round balls .457. I used .454's but the balls would loosten up after a couple of shots. Also have the 45LC cylinder conversion, got it from Tayler and Co. Takes some time to reload as you have to remove cylinder and back plate to reload, but fun cowboy action is worth the time. I use 30 grn powder, fff goex Ruger sais you can overload that gun ifn you filled the barrel with powder. (dont try it though)
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    what I dont understand is why dont they make the roa any longer? I dont own one but ive seen pictures of them and they look like well made guns and they seem to be extremely popular with the bp crowd. I know I would buy a new one for sure. Seems like there is a big market for this firearm.
  19. Larry in Michigan

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    One would speculate -- that one being me -- that it is no longer
    profitable enough to remain in production. It appears that way
    on the surface, but who knows? Perhaps a new model will
    supersede it (I doubt it), or perhaps they are suspending production
    until demand builds. One thing is sure, though. If they were
    flying off the shelves, they would still be in production.

    Larry in Michigan
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    Greetings; I here am new. I just found this forum.

    I did not know Ruger discontinued the Old Army; I'm glad I got mine.

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    I enjoy shooting mine but I prefer using Goex instead of Pyrodex. It is becoming more difficult to obtain Goes. I recently purchased 2 pounds for 5 bucks (the guy didn't need it anymore and just wanted to get rid of it).

    Also, it seems to me that Ruger should have used a larger grip frame on such a large gun. I replaced the grip frame on one of mine with a larger, brass frame. It handles a lot better.
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