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S&W M&P vs. Springfield Armory XD/XDM

Discussion in 'Centerfire Pistols & Revolvers' started by fcs25, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. Boris

    Boris Former Guest

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    You sure about that. S&W has huge QC issues with their slide finish. They try to use a metal treatment like Glock but if done wrong on stainless metals it makes stainless very rust prone. The process is best sited for regular carbon steel. About half the guys I know with MP pistols have slight to major rusting issues.

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    Do a quick google on the subject. The carbon steel in XD pistols that get the same process don't rust.
  2. zkovach

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    I own both and my vote is the xdm. Feels better to me. Both are great guns though
  3. Helix_FR

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    I see many M&P's, never seen one with a rust issue. I know the early models did have a issue with heat treatment but that problem has been fixed for quite some time.
  4. RunningOnMT

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    I've never seen it either Helix. As for that picture Boris posted, even if some rusting was an M&P vulnerability, that is clearly a sign of abuse and neglect of the most basic preventive maintenance.


    Edit: I will admit I have seen blued steel firearms by various manufactures become rusted, even when well oiled, after being stored away in foam lined cases for years.
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  5. Double D

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    Well, stainless steel does not mean "no rusting" but does mean less likely to rust. I have seen plenty of SS guns rusted due to lack of care.
  6. Boris

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    Abuse to you is normal use to others. To the range and back and maybe carried every now and then is a safe queen. Hunting, camping, week long hike trips, all normal to me. I have seen M&Ps rust on day 2 of 5 day hikes being soaked in pacNW constant rains. While SIGs and Glocks laughed it off.

    I use my guns, seen too many M&Ps rust during what I call normal use, and one had a striker break on one hunting trip. S&Ws latest Glock model has not impressed me at all for what I expect pistols to do.
  7. gdmoody

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    A little oil every now and then . . . .
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    I have an original SW40F bought when they first came out, somewhere around 7-9000 rds through it these 18 years, no rust, no problems.
    I even shot it underwater on a bet, it still works as well as any Glock I've owned.
    There's nothing wrong with the S&W line, and EVERY manufacturer makes a lemon now and then.
    I chose the Sigma because at the time, the Glock felt like a block in my smaller hand, and the Sigma was WAY ahead in ergonomics to the Glock back then. Still carry it today.
  9. Mosin_Nagant_Fan

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    I have an XD9, put over 200 rounds of 3 different brands of FMJ and no problems, no stovepipes or miss-feeds and that was only the first time, at the rage. If I had the choice, in 45, I'd go with SA XD/XDm. While the M&P is superior to the Sigma, I'd rather go with something I'm already used to. (I bought the XD9 on a whim, I originally wanted a Glock or a Sig Sauer, in 9mm)
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    I have a XDM9 and love it!! Never any problems. And FYI, the XDM comes with 3 sets of back straps so you can get the right grip you want.
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    I have an early XD in 9mm. Tried it and a Glock before buying the XD. Glock always pulled right and up, was able to shoot out the X-ring with the XD just by picking it up. Liked the feel much better as well.

    If you can, find a range that has both and go shooting before buying.
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