S&W Model 669

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  1. todd51

    todd51 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Well I just could not resist the temptation. One of the Old Guys said he wanted to sell his 9mm. In all these years I have never owned a 9mm. I have shot some and load for them but never owned. Must of been the Devil speaking because some little voice kept saying "buy it". So I yielded to the voice and purchased this nice little pistol. It is a S&W Model 669 and comes with the box and all the papers and trinkets plus two extra 12rd. mags. and a Safariland holster. Neat!

    All I have to do now is load up some ammo and go to the range.

    Any of you have any experience with these pistols, comments would be appreciated such as, is there a bullet profile it doesn't like?

    Todd
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  2. JLA

    JLA Well-Known Member

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    Thats a damn nice carry gun todd. Most of the 669s I see are well worn because, well, they are well worn! They are very comfortable to carry and shoot. For a gen purpose plinkin load you'll do well with a 120 grain cast bullet. Personally, I would carry light hollowpoints for defense. Something like a Hydrashok or a goldensaber. Good catch my friend!
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    I carried one of these when I worked with the Sheriff's Office back in the mid-80s, they are extremely reliable and very accurate. They are a PITA to disassemble until you learn this quick fix. Take a spent 9mm case and stovepipe jam it between the slide and the barrel, this lines you up for removing the slide release, which is no fun if you try and do it the way written in the manual. Yours look in mint condition have fun and enjoy!
    Not that it matters but the blued magazines are from a S&W 469 as the 669 came with stainless mags as well. They will work just as well...
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  4. todd51

    todd51 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Neat tip K75RT, thanks. I was fooling around with the pistol this afternoon trying to find a good way to hold the slide back in order to remove the slide release and didn't find one. You can bet I am going to use your "stove pipe" tip.

    There was a little "trinket" in the box of thin metal with some cut outs on one side. Is marked "Devel" one of the cut outs matches case length. What is it for? Paper work doesn't mention it.
  5. Daffyd

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    Hey, Todd!

    Nice pic! It never looked so good! Two of the mags came with the pistol, and 1 extra was purchased the same day! I bought the grips about a week later! I don't have the exact date but it was the early 80's! Not sure about the stainless magazines, but maybe a later version had them!
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    'DEVEL' was a highly modified version of the early M-39 pistols, done by a private company, Devel Corp., way back in the early '70s. They were a very neat little package. Barrel, frame and slide were 'chopped' and a 'guttersnipe' sight system was attached. The hammer was bobbed and a Teflon coating was applied to the smoothed and rounded frame and slide. The mags were chopped and skeletonized and the grips were transparent so as to allow the shooter to visually observe remaining rounds. After starting out modifying the S&W M-39, the outfit also did the same kind of mods to the 1911 Colt and the Browning Hi Power, IIRC. The things were a bit finicky as to what 9mm ammo they liked, I believe, and what you have is a gauge for case length and possibly OAL cartridge length for hand loaders loading for these pistols. Don't know why it would be with a stock S&W pistol unless the original owner wanted one of his pistols converted as much as I did back then. Mike
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  7. todd51

    todd51 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Thanks Mike,

    I will ask the original owner "Daffyd" just how he came by the gauge. This is obviously an unmodified pistol purchased new by Daffyd. I had found a little history on Devel with a web search but not to the extent that you just explained. Here is a photo of the little gauge along side a recent reloaded cartridge.
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    todd, A lot of that info is from memory. I wanted one of those so badly that I wrote to the Company and got their pamphlet.........and price list. The pamphlet is (was) before they expanded their line to the 1911 and Hi Power. The cost was something that almost made me drop my teeth! As I recall it was over $1000....plus MY gun to modify. In the early '70s! I wish I could find that old pamphlet.....with pictures. As I now recall, that gauge measured max overall case length and max width of the extraction groove. It was shown in the flier. Mike
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  9. todd51

    todd51 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Ok, at the risk of beating a dead horse, I just measured some on the gauge and Mike you are spot on. One cut out does match extraction groove diameter, another would fall with in case length specs. and the overall width of the device could be cartridge OAL, depending on bullet profile/weight. Thanks again.

    Todd
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    the devel conversion of the model 39 was called the ASP
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    THERE SHOULD OF BEEN A QUESTION MARK AFTER THAT. IT WAS A QUESTION NOT A STATEMENT OF FACT.
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    No, The ASP came first and (I was mistaken in my earlier statement) IT used the 'Guttersnipe' sight system. It was designed and produced by a man named Paris Theodore...........The Devel was a modification of this earlier modification of the S&W M-39 and done by Charles Kelsey. I was further mistaken in the price.....for the full Devel conversion, plus the cost of the initial pistol the total was about $1000. Still pretty hefty in the '70s Mike
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    The 'Guttersnipe" was a sight system that I personally thought might have been something to look into......it used the theory (?) of convergence, ie. two parallel lines appearing to join at some distance point.....it was a single unit without a front sight.
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  13. johnlives4christ

    johnlives4christ Former Guest

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    nice, i like an exposed hammer instead of bobbed though. but nice none the less
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    John I have to agree, You may have seen my 539 elsewhere on this forum, it was my favorite duty/off-duty carry gun, however, I carried one of the 69 series S&W's at times, and the bobbed hammer worked well in concealed carry. Mike
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    awesome firearm. That was my first duty gun as a Police Officer and it was used and beat up then and always shot hundreds.
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