Sawed Off Shotgun

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms & Related Items' started by bizy, Dec 9, 2009.

  1. bizy

    bizy New Member

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    If a person is in his house with a sawed off shot gun with a barrel length of 12 inches with an overall length of 20 inches, is this legal? This weapon will never leave the house.

    Am I paranoid? YES! I watch the news and the gang bangers on the corner...
  2. Helix_FR

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    Is it legal? No, even if it never leaves the house.

    And if the weapon is ever used to protect your family its still illegal and you'll be thrown in prison for using it and possessing it so basically its useless and a liability.
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    Can't have it in your possession, in my understanding.
  4. muddober

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    bizy: It is a felony for one to have in their possession a shotgun with a barrel length of less than 18". Under the federal sentencing guide line rules that came into affect on November 1, 1987, it carries a 5 year prison sentence if convicted, of which now one has to do about 85% of their time because there is no more parole with the feds.

    Ron
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  5. mrkirker

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    Might be best to get rid of it. NOT selling or giving, but taking it apart and carefully including bits of it with some 'untraceable' trash 'till it's GONE and suggesting to the person in the house to forget that he/she had ever seen it. (I'd start with that barrel.) Things of this nature can conjure up some very unforgiving attitudes and consequences.
  6. glocknut

    glocknut New Member

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    There are hoops you can jump thru...

    I think you have to buy a special tax stamp and go thru some kind of atf bacground check of sorts to get a special liscense for such a weapon. Not worth it in my opinion....
    If the legal length of 18" is too long then a 45acp would be in order.

    I cant imagine 18" being to long though? Oh, there i go sounding like my exwife again....

    Thats my only punchline for this thread. lol

    Gn
  7. mrkirker

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    Thats my only punchline for this thread.
    Promise? (insert 'ducking' icon, here!) LOL!
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    Finally, now that's the swine flu virus I have been waiting on to start posting again:eek::eek::D:D:D:D:D:D
  9. glocknut

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    oh yeah? :D

    yeah...perhaps we don't need a Glock subforum....what we really need is a category called glocknuts finest... or glocknuts fuzzy thoughts?! :D

    Maybe i oughta run that past Sam and and see what he thinks? :D:D:D:D

    Actually.... i can allready imagine his response.... LOL

    gn
  10. mrkirker

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    The Christmas version could be called:
    "GlockNUTS Roasting on an Open Fire"
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    Oh...that's good! I like that idea!!!! I'm surprised i didnt come up with that idea last night when i was sitting on my new heating pad in front of the computer.... go figure.... :D

    Gn
  12. hogger129

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    No I am pretty sure sawed-off shotguns are illegal no matter how long they are. If you want something like that, you're better off buying one of those shotguns that doesn't have a stock attached to it, but has the longer barrel - like these-

    Benelli M4 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_M4
    Franchi SPAS 12 - http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Franchi_SPAS-12

    I think these are also what they call "Tactical" shotguns, so I don't know if these are legal for civilian ownership. I would think they are as they are semi-automatic. You would have to check your local laws, but that would be better than having a sawed-off that is likely illegal.
  13. Alpo

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    Now that everyone has given their opinions, a few facts:

    Federal law requires that a shotgun has a barrel at least 18 inches long, with an overall length of at least 26 inches OR it must be registered with the Federal government and a tax paid.

    All of y'all that said,"It ain't legal" are wrong. It CAN be illegal, but it can also be legal. Just like having morphine. It can be legal, but it can be illegal. Depends on how you got it.

    See the gun? 11 inch barrels. Perfectly legal. Why? I papered it.
    [​IMG]

    Now, I suspect, from the way the question was phrased, that the gun in question is not papered. If so, then it is illegal. Not because it is short, but because it is NOT PAPERED.

    The state he lives in (don't know where Bizy is) might not allow it, even if it is registered with the Feds. California don't. Neither does New York or Illinois. Probably others.
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    Just get a hangun. 44 mag perhaps....
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    If it was in the buy and sell forum it would be called glocknuts for a bargain or free glocknuts ???????????????:D:D:D
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    Do you remember the Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy on SNL? Possibly Deep Thoughts by Glocknut. There definitely has to be some deep thought in some of the things you post Mike.
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    if you want to build and or own a legal Sawed Off Shotgun
    here is a thread on how to do it
    Banshee has several and give you the information on paperwork and such


    http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=80131
  18. bizy

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    I am fairly sure that if you already own a short shot gun that is illegal, you can't paper that gun. If you try, you can be arrested for having said illegal gun. You must first get the paper, then the gun. If I am mistake on this, will someone please correct me.
  20. tcox4freedom

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    Thre's a company in MS that will covert a Saiga 12 and put an "8" inch barrel on it.
    Frankly, I don't see the benefit of such short shotgun barrels.

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