SBR Logic, I don't get it...

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms & Related Items' started by 45Smashemflat, Nov 6, 2004.

  1. 45Smashemflat

    45Smashemflat New Member

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    OK - First, I understand that laws do not have to make sence - but I really don't get this. What's the deal with the Short Barrel Rifle restrictions? I mean, I can by a 44 mag revolver that I can easily carry concealed. But, I can't have a real short 44 lever gun - that is still appreciably larger than any 44 mag handgun. What's the sense in that?
  2. LIKTOSHOOT

    LIKTOSHOOT Advanced Senior Member

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    If you went back in BATF time, this is what you would find...albeit.....not far enough. Burn rates, as classified by BATF. Also enter the (serves no sporting purpose) Rifles require a minimum or 16"`s and shotguns a minumum or 18`s. Logical???? Not really. Now back to sporting case (dumb as it really is.) When the 5SEVEN9 hit the market...pistol and subgun (really SWEET) It was not for sale to the public-PERIOD. Now it is, atleast in the pistol form. But my belief is what a varmit rifle caliber!!!! We shall see, atleast the pistol is now available to the public with twenty round magazines.


    LTS
  3. gamachinist

    gamachinist New Member

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    If I'm not badly mistaken,the SBR laws go back to the NFA of 1934.
    The idea was that a sbr is more controlable than a handgun,thus more deadly.
    Given the shooting abilities of the average criminal,what would you rather face,a handgun with a 6" barrel,or a short stocked rifle with a 12" barrel?
    Robert.
  4. 45Smashemflat

    45Smashemflat New Member

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    LTS - whats a 5Seven9? New one on me.

    GaMach - I guess I can buy that, but it still stinks. Somehow my 1927 Thompson is "more scary" with a 10.5" barrell, so I have to pay 2x the barrell price to stamp it and install it... A Carbon 15 "5.56 Pistol" carry's the same length upper as the NFA CAR 15, your just a collapsable stock apart. You can use a 4 cell mag light to "stock" a glock, but you can't buy the snap on plastic one..... Oh well, as I started with, our legal system is not supposed to make sense....

    Anybody know a Class III gunsmith who can do this kind of work and help with the forms? In the Ga area?
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    CountryGunsmith New Member

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    You specifically need a 'Class II' manufacturer. This would be a Type 07 FFL that has paid the 'Class II' SOT.
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    45Smashemflat New Member

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    Thanks Country! Always trying to stay legal! - is there an internet directory of these folks with these skills and permits?
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    stash247 New Member

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    Jonathan Arthur Ceiner- He's in Cape Canaveral, Fla. Close enough for a vacation???
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    45Smashemflat New Member

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    Hmm, yep, food for thought....
  9. gamachinist

    gamachinist New Member

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    45smashemflat,
    It's been a while since I came by here!
    I passed by a gunshop on the way back from the airplane museum at Warner Robbins AFB last month.
    It was on the main road to and from WRAFB to I 75 North.
    I think their sign said they were a class 3 dealer,but I don't recall the name
    (Rifleman something,big help huh?)
    Hope this helps,
    Robert.
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    45Smashemflat New Member

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    Yep - I know they guy. He can buy/sell, but can't do Class III mods. How did you like the Museum? You were pretty close to me, as I live just south of Warner Robins.
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    I had to make a whirlwind tour of the place because we got there late,and my lady friend was trying to get as many pics as she could for her three sons.I didn't get a lot of time to look at the outside displays and the ones awaiting display though.
    (I think it was after 2:30 when we arrived because of a late start and a stop off in Macon to get her digital camera downloaded at Wolf .)
    I want to go back one day,but it will probably be combined with a trip to the Ocmulgee WMA gun range,so it may not be that practical since I am a workaholic.
    Regards,
    Robert.

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