Should you carry a round in the chamber?

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  1. Zane71464

    Zane71464 Well-Known Member

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    If it's on my side (which my carry gun is 'sept while sleeping), it's laoded and ready for it's intended purpose...to be ready if needed.
  2. Double D

    Double D Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I guess this is possible, but I have carried this way for many, many years and have never disengaged my safety. I sit on my couch, my recliner, my truck seat, my office chair and I adjust my holster quite often. I guess thats why they are called "accidents". Stranger things have happened. Even with the safety off, you still have to depress the grip safety and pull the trigger so......
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  3. nmckenzie

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    If one were looking for an example of the old saying "Everything that could go wrong, did go wrong...", I think this one would be a contender. Not too many months back a local fellow inadvertantly shot himself (fatally) while preparing to leave the range and holstering his pistol. The newspaper described the pistol as a .44 Mag - whether revolver, autoloader, or single shot I don't know, and the holster was described as a shoulder rig. How many times have you seen someone pick up a handgun and automatically place their finger on the trigger. That factor may've played a part in both incidents.
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    I carry a 9mm derringer with both barrels loaded and the hammer on half cock in right hand pants pocket. And yes I do have the saftey button engaged.
  5. ryan42

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    Thats called the Tueller drill,made popular from Officer Dennis Tueller.He estimates that a person can charge 21 ft. in 1.5 seconds which is close to the time it takes the average person to draw acquire a sight picture and fire.Its good to practic.But what I do is have my son stand 21ft behind me and when I say go he runs at me and when he gets to me I have him tap me on the shoulder.That way hes never in front of me.
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    sting75ray Well-Known Member

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    I carry my 45 cocked and locked all the time. I also carry my High Standard Derringer in my hip pocket ready to go.
  7. nmckenzie

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    My M1911A1 was carried in a strong side high-ride, chamber loaded, hammer at rest. An S&W Model 40 Cenennial traveled in my right hand front pants pocket or sports jacket side pocket.
  8. squaw man

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    I asked that same question of a cop that goes to my gym.... went something like this:
    Cop: how long will it take to operate the slide on your pistol
    Me: second or a second and a half
    Cop: bad guy can get off two or three rounds in that time, next question
  9. Old Grump

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    let me explain why it makes sense with two examples. Most of our young seamen and most young marines had very little instruction time and/or range time with the 45 pistol.

    Example one the youngster whose name, rate and ranking is lost in my old memory banks now. His sanity cart slipped off the track and he literally went nutso up forward starboard side. He grabbed the roving patrol's 45 and held him, the outboard sentry and a pair of mess cooks up against the bulkhead with the gun. We were moored outboard of another ship and the roving patrol saw what was happening so he informed out quarterdeck watch officer. Doubting the seriousness of the report the OOD sent the petty officer of the watch to check it out and report back to him. The young man was as unfamiliar with the gun as the rest of the people involved and he nervously chambered a round in his 45 as he went forward and again and again. End result is a trail of 5 live rounds on the deck behind him like a trail of bread crumbs. By the time he got there the party of captives grew to include the Messenger of the watch and the chaplain. Our hero with an empty gun joined the rest up against the bulkhead.

    The chaplain suddenly pointed to the other ship which was gathering a small crowd of observers and said loudly "Look there", the guy looked then turned saw the chaplain stepping towards him tried to shoot but he hadn't chambered a round. He got cold cocked by the chaplain for his trouble, Corpsman got him in a straight jacket and sedated and he left the ship strapped to a gurney. The chaplain wasn't even a member of the ships crew, he was there meeting an old friend for breakfast.

    Example two A young friend of mine, intelligent but a little shy on common sense assumed the ASROC watch. His post was below the flying bridge and since we were out to sea the Captain was on the bridge. Procedure is to take the magazine and count the 5 rounds, check the chamber of the 45 to insure it was empty, let the slide go forward, pull the trigger to lower the hammer, insert the magazine and holster the gun. If you insert the magazine before you release the slide and lower the hammer things get exciting. A hole in the flying bridge between our commanding officers very large feet is exciting. My little buddy was still there froze in position with the gun pointed in the air when they got to him and pried the gun out of his hand.

    More training would have been desirable but it never happened unless you were assigned to a combat role or marksmanship team. Empty chamber while not full proof worked out once and did no good once. I don't want to think how many more accidents there would have been if all those young cowboys carried one in the chamber.
  10. flboots

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    Ive heard that in older revolvers it is better to rest the hammer on an empty chamber unless you know your going into a fight. With newer guns there is better safety. So you can have all chambers loaded.
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    My main Carry gun is a .45 Colt Peacemaker. I carry all six rounds in it and the hammer has, full-cock, half-cock, and a light pull on the hammer is the safety. I have carried it all over blue yonder with it in that position and when I need it all I do is pull the hammer all the way back. It's single action, It's been thrown all around, carried for days like that and never had any problems. I carried it with out it on the safety for months and never had a problem. I like my revolvers.
  12. ejkoechling

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    took me a while also to get use to carrying with one in the pipe, but thats all
    I carry now. Whether its my glock or 1911. As james yeager says..."Your responsabilty to be ready for the fight, never ends" (I think thats it)
  13. Grizz

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    I keep one in the chamber at all times, if you ever need to use your pistol your most likely going to need it fast.
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