SHTF Weapon - Need Advice

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  1. soundguy

    soundguy Well-Known Member

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    if i had to have a weapon to go out and scrounge with.. hadn't thought about an sks.. but looking at it.. it's 10 rounds that relaods decently fast with a stripper.. and may have a spike or blade bayo depending on where you live.

    kinda clumsy in full stock.. but versatile and no doubts on stopping power.

    I'd have to think real hard between that and a tactical 12g... both winners IMHO

    ps.. I'd take the sks over the wasr10 any day. have both... the wastr.. well.. it's an ak pattern gun.. i wanted to have 1 .. now I can say i do.. and I'd still rather shoot an sks.. :)
  2. I'm a Ninja! Shhhh!!

    I'm a Ninja! Shhhh!! New Member

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    I have an SKS with Monte Carlo stock, heat shield, flash suppressor, laser and red dot scope andi just bought a Glock 22 last week. I may move up to a AK but scared about price after the election coming up. I know the .40 cal glock will be pricey but I have a stock of 7.62x39 and it is cheaper than 223 so that isbthe route I took.
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    Welcome to the forum!
  4. Redd

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    Thanks for all the input, especially Mogunner. I just ordered a Saiga 7.62x39 unconverted rifle, and the deal I got is about $200 less than my baseline (wife approved) budget!! I'll give a report when I take delivery and get to the range with it. Now I'll start researching AMMO!!!
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    You'll likely be very happy with that choice. Good luck! And 7.62x39 is relatively affordable, so stock up as much as you can. Don't forget to support your local gun shop. :D
  6. soundguy

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    yep.. with all the milsurp out there.. even the non loadable stuff is nice.

    I actually have a bit of a plan on my survival ammo stores.. but i'll start a seperate thread on it.
  7. mogunner

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    If you decide to do the conversion drop me a line if you have any questions, I have pretty much 90% of the process in photos that I took while doing it. There's a couple of decent guides online but I found a couple of things missing out of the steps they had listed.
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    I used AR's in combat-I am NOT impressed. In REAL cold weather. Anything below 10degrees F- well the heat from firing AFTER ceasefire will cause the moisture in the air to condense and FREEZE-causing the locking lugs on the bolt face seems to be welded in the receiver. The Mini 14 on ther other hand uses a bolt system similar to the M-1 and M-14-which is easier to unstick if air moisture freezes on the bolt face or around the bolt. A round of ammo - using the point is a good scraping deicer. IMO
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    targetacqmgt New Member

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    Careful of 7.62 X 39 ammo that uses metal that easily corrodes with moisture- I had some "silver" looking shell cases that became so pitted they were virtually unusable.
  10. soundguy

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    i must have missed it.. what conversion?
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    Look at it like this:

    If you get a M44, you have only to bore out the butt stock,

    and the cleaning tools will go behind the butt plate.

    Then, not only is the rifle fully complete and self-contained,

    but you'll be on the way to rounding out your Mosin

    collection. Get a really good one, or you'll have a lifetime to

    regret not spending that additional 80$...
  12. mogunner

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    When the Russkies import the Saiga's they have to conform to a "sporting rifle" configuration. While they function fine in this setup, most people "convert" them back to the AK style setup by changing out certain parts for US made parts under 922r compliance restrictions. This is what they look like when they come into the States.

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    Change the stock, move the trigger group back forward where it was originally, add pistol grip and change handguard and you're good to go as far as being legal for 992r, you can also change the gas piston as yet another "changeable" part. With a small file you can take just a smidgeon off the mag latch and high capacity AK mags will fit but you have to also install a bullet guide as the front of the AK mags are a tad shorter than the plastic Saiga ones so the guide is used to tip the bullet nose up and into the chamber mouth. There's loads of options out there for parts.

    Here's mine after conversion.

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    neat thanks!
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    I'm running the stock Saigia in .308, 25 rd. mags. It's a little on the heavy side, but I love it!
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    Thanks Jona. I got the link saved already. I just wanna try to score one used and cheaper off somebody that dont want it anymore
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    Yep, mine tips the scale at 10.2 lbs with the 30 round mags.
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    Seems pretty pricey to me.........I personally like some of the M1 Carbine stock conversions I've seen for the 10/22. Thinking about it, I'm just not an AK fan.
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    I got one of those John. Picked it up complete for 160 bucks. The stock kit alone goes for 100+.. I bought it for the wife.
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    Heres my choices.............

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  20. Redd

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    Does anyone know of a good place to read up on 922R, if I get the 30 round mags does that make it non compliant even if it's unconverted?
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