SIG 1911

Discussion in 'The 1911 Forum' started by 45Smashemflat, Dec 7, 2003.

  1. 45Smashemflat

    45Smashemflat Active Member

    Oct 6, 2003
    Read in G&A that SIG is going to make a 1911. Anyone heard anything about this?

    I had a West German 220 for years, wish I never got rid of it. It was a DA/SA, but it was still a serious shooter. If they can make a 1911 of similar quality - they'll be a force to recon with.
  2. Zigzag2

    Zigzag2 Guest

    Interesting ... I've always liked Sigs :p

  3. gpostal

    gpostal Former Guest

    Feb 20, 2003
    hmmmm a 1911 with a de-cocking lever ,intresting

    i hope they do better than S&W did with their version ,although i do like smiths fishscale serations
  4. 45Smashemflat

    45Smashemflat Active Member

    Oct 6, 2003
    As I understand it, it will be a standard 1911 SA design - no decocker.

    SIG does great stuff - from fighter jets, to Printers, to guns. (Blaser is part of SIG - you can see some of the similarities in the 202 and the R93's barrel fluting)

    My 220 was awesome. I still remember going to a shooting school down here and doing some "long range work" at the 25 yd line. (It was a novice class, and you had to start there before taking other advanced classes...) Anyway, the instructor was walking down the line behind us, stopped at my firing point, paused, and mentioned "hey, you can use the rest of the target - they're free" as I was making one big hole downrange.

    I'll have another one day - look for the front sights with no dovetail - that's a quick way to ID one that was made across the pond.
  5. gpostal

    gpostal Former Guest

    Feb 20, 2003
    45 ,i was making a joke about the de-cocker ,i look forward to seeing them
  6. 45Smashemflat

    45Smashemflat Active Member

    Oct 6, 2003
    oops - sorry - humor mode, on.
  7. Xracer

    Xracer *TFF Admin Staff Mediator*

    Well, I guess John Moses Browning got it right the first time!

    A hundred years later, and everybody and his brother is copying Browning's original design.

    I wonder if, one hundred years from now, anybody will be copying these modern "Plastic Wonderguns".
  8. Marlin

    Marlin *TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor*

    I don't think we'll ever really improve on John Moses' design or ideas!
  9. 45Smashemflat

    45Smashemflat Active Member

    Oct 6, 2003
    Just to rock the boat a skosh - I would say JMB had the right idea, but his design has been improved upon. If Colt's original 1911A1's are the benchmark, then there have been many improvements over time - kinda evolutionary. (Cut, Flared Ejection Ports, Beveled Mag Wells, Better Sights, Mods for concealed carry, mods for HP feeding, supported chambers, etc.) I guess one could argue about external extractors. Are these significant? Needless to say, Browning's design was a great foundation to build from.
  10. stash247

    stash247 New Member

    Oct 18, 2003
    Central Texas
    The 1911's a good thing to copy- it just works.
    If SIG builds it, it will be as good or better than the Kimber; that's my .02 worth.
    As to the other comments, consider: A Harley with $5k of chrome hung on, is still Just a Harley.
    The sights, etc for the Colt/ JMB pistol just make it MORE, without ever compromising a(n) uniquely functional and reliable design.
    Here's a question: The stuff gets deep, and you can only have ONE handgun, no spare parts. To what weapon would YOU trust your life??
    Admittedly, we are on the 1911 forum, but , if somebody knows how to split this post and put it elsewhere, feel free.
    My vote, for the only candidate, goes to the 1911 in any flavor. I don't think even the Chinese can F*** it up.
  11. 45Smashemflat

    45Smashemflat Active Member

    Oct 6, 2003
    Same vote - plain jane 1911 with functional mods but no bells and whistles....+ lots of Wilson mags.....
  12. Since Logansdad has left this forum, I will fill in for him here:

    Oh yeah? What about Glocks?!? Glock doesn't make a 1911, so there!

    Ok, it's somebody elses turn next time. :D
  13. Xracer

    Xracer *TFF Admin Staff Mediator*

    OK, Hydra Shok......ya just couldn't resist stirring the stuff, could ya! :D

    I still wonder if, one hundred years from now, anybody will be copying these modern "Plastic Wonderguns".
  14. tuckerd1

    tuckerd1 Moderator Supporting Member

    X, Will only be laser (ray) guns out of plastic by then! Don't ya think?
  15. stash247

    stash247 New Member

    Oct 18, 2003
    Central Texas
    Don't know Logan'sdad, but I think I would like to meet him.
    The Glock line shoots almost too well to have been built, as they look and feel, in a toy store. And that's the problem, for me: as well as they shoot and function, if they only LOOKED and FELT like a real pistol, I'd probably own several.
    But, they don't, IMHO. Train as you fight; you fight as you train- I've heard that , somewhere, a lot. And it's true- your muscles, properly trained,(1,000-1,500 reps), can react faster than the brain can.
    Being an old guy, it's more work now than it was then, to learn new motor skills. Having run the 1911 in it's various persuasions for nearly 40 years, if I'm gonna switch, it must be to a gun that at least feels like a gun; Glock doesn't make the cut.
    Hell, I have trouble with the triggers on J-frame Smiths; they, with their coil mainsprings, just don't feel like a K-frame's flat spring action, 'tho this may be splitting hairs.
    Fact remains, we fight as we train, and when the s**t gets deep, I want a gun that needs no introduction; one that , when you close your hand around it, introduces itself.
    If JMB is a dated design, OK. Why, then, do the LAPD, the FBI, the SOCOM troopers, et al, consider it the GO-TO design???
    In two words--- IT (F*****G) WORKS!
    Maybe that's two, maybe three, but the message is inescapable,in that the three best funded(read this-price is no object) agencies, at the local, Federal, and International levels of dispute resolution, all choose the same design, albeit with different accessories, to be in their hands when they are first thru the door.
    If this is unclear, please advise.
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