So the ATF stopped by today...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Helix_FR, Jan 25, 2010.

  1. Helix_FR

    Helix_FR Active Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    Imperial, MO
    Just doing an inspection. making sure all my t's were crossed and i's dotted. Didn't have anything in the shop at the time anyway. Really cool gal. Good stories about some of our local big stores. Got to hit her with some "what if" questions. She knew her stuff but them many of them do, can't really be stupid to work for the ATF. She even went through my C&R bound book from 3 years ago. C&R holders look out, their coming to inspect you too. She said they have been lax on the C&R's until the last year. Most of the problem she sees is just improper bound books. They're not out to arrest you, just make sure your doing it right and to correct you if your not, unless your doing something really shady, then you got some explain'n.
  2. Suwannee Tim

    Suwannee Tim New Member

    Feb 11, 2009
    How long were her horns? Did she have a pointy tail? Can you still smell the brimstone?

  3. lockednloaded45

    lockednloaded45 New Member

    Apr 17, 2009
    southcentral MO
    lol, did she have a pitchfork ?
  4. Helix_FR

    Helix_FR Active Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    Imperial, MO
    Nah, she was laid back. Wasn't as upiddy as some. Didn't overly probe and ask any trap questions. Just was there to make sure I was doing it right.
  5. I still wouldn't be too trusting. They could just be trying to act nice to make people think they've changed their jackboot ways of the past. Get in nice with people, then "BAM!"
  6. glocknut

    glocknut Active Member

    Did she pat you on the back? If so...she was probably looking for a soft spot....

  7. Kieran McCaig

    Kieran McCaig New Member

    Jul 8, 2009
    Great thinking "put knife here"
  8. Remember, the bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.
  9. Ranb

    Ranb Former Guest

    Jan 24, 2010
    WA, USA
    I was an FFL from 90-94 in the Pearl City Hawaii Navy housing area. :) While the local Pass and ID office knew about my gun collection, I never told them about the license. I was inspected by the ATF during my first year. I was told there were two compliance inspectors for Hawaii, Guam and American Samoa back then, and I got the nice guy. The "not so nice" guy inspected one of my friends and threatened him with a citation if he did not get a bound book going to record his dispositions as he was doing it the alternate method and with the wrong forms.

    My inspection lasted about 30 minutes then was followed by 30 minutes of questions and answers. He showed up on a weekday, so he had to ask permission as my business hours were only 8-4 on Sundays. I had one error. I had imported a revolver to Hawaii for my personal collection and did not enter it into the business record book then transfer it to the personal inventory book. He told me I did not have to fix it, but I did anyway. All in all a positive experience.

  10. Suwannee Tim

    Suwannee Tim New Member

    Feb 11, 2009
    I am all for law enforcement, even gun law enforcement. I think the BATFE should "show the flag" at gun stores, make sure they are keeping the paper work straight and if they are not, help them unless the gun merchant is committing crimes in which case they should come down on him like a ton of bricks. Law enforcement should focus on criminals. I have heard several stories lately regarding BATFE that were positive. I hope they keep up the good work. Just kidding about the horn and tail. Was she hot? Did you get her number?:D
  11. glocknut

    glocknut Active Member

    Government agents are ALLWAYS nice leading up to an election where the republicans could win big....
    MSHA was only nice when it was close to election time.

  12. Terry_P

    Terry_P New Member

    Mar 23, 2008
    It should be a decent experience for someone that is trying to obey the law. The cwap that went on with Red's just shouldn't happen. We pay their salary so they should act like it. Technical/clerical violations should be pointed out in a constructive manner and corrected on the spot. If someone is clearly breaking the law i.e. illegal sales then thats where the agents should focus their effort. I suspect there isn't enough of that to keep them employed so thats why you get some of the petty nit-****. The bad guys steal their guns or buy them on the street.
  13. cycloneman

    cycloneman Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    Your right on that. I have heard of a dealer that was told to send back his Barretts. Not to sell anymore. :eek:
  14. Helix_FR

    Helix_FR Active Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    Imperial, MO
    When she called all she wanted to do was make sure everything was in check. May there be ulterior motives behind the visit? Who knows. My experience with her was very positive. And she did state that all they are there to do is make sure that everything was done right and to help if things were done wrong. The previous post about the guy getting in trouble for not having a bound book is his own fault. There are rules and as long as we play the rules we can keep doing what we are doing. My 01 license is not marked as dealer its marked as gunsmith. I don't sell many guns per year if any at all, its mainly parts and 99% of those parts don't require a FFL. Hopefully they don't have much interest in me which I don't think they do.
  15. Helix_FR

    Helix_FR Active Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    Imperial, MO
    Well not exactly my type. She was about 6'2" (a little taller than me) and thin. If your into women that could probably kick the crap out of you then yes:p
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