Solar Power?

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  1. Ranger-1

    Ranger-1 New Member

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    Solar Power

    Anyone out there have it, Thinking of going for it, Any bad things about it? Please no jokes, Ya I know no sun no power....lol

    Batters stay good or die out quick? Needed to replace often?
    Money wise, is it worth it?
    Spend about $85.00 in elect each month in the winter and $165.00 + in the summer I love my AC...

    I live in the desert, Hot in the summer, Dam cold in the winter.....
  2. Bobitis

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    Look into passive solar. In the desert it would be a great idea.
  3. Ranger-1

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    What is passive solar?
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    how about a solar powered wind generator ??

    no foolin 16-18 hours a day of pwer generation and plenty of stored battery power too

    if your interested let me know

    cheers

    jack
  5. Ranger-1

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    Let me know....
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    If your bills are that low I don't think the cost of a full solar setup would be a good idea. You would probably be better served by putting that money into closing up any air leaks in your house and adding a radiant barrier in the attic or an energy star metal roofing material that will reflect the heat from the sun.
  7. Bobitis

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    Instead of using solar to power grids of electrical cells and batteries, use it to heat things (heat sinks). I did a thesis paper on it many years ago in college and got one of two A's in my class.

    There's a ton of research/info out there.
    The internet is your friend.

    There will be construction costs, and tons of ways to go about it.
    A commmon misconception is when living in the desert, you'ld think the summers would offer no relief from the heat. Not so. You can actually use the sun to cool your home.
    It just needs to be built correctly.

    I spent hundreds of hours doing research in the college library (no computers back then). The research was half the fun. There's so much info out there, and after 25 years, it's got to be better that what I had.
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    here it is

    its a powerpoint presentation thats been zipped

    cheers

    jack

    Attached Files:

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    If you want panels...I'd wait for just a bit longer. They have developed cells that can absorb many different light frequencies now. I'm not sure if they've gone into production yet, it was maybe a year, 1 1/2? They are compact and flexible too...can "wrap" around corners if necessary.
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    That is way cool Jack, thanks!!
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    now if i could just finish the sucker

    a small one runs my place the 3 neighbours and all thier shearing sheds and pumps in south Australia

    it cost $35 K AUD to build but replaced 4 generators that cost $45K a year in deisal to run

    the most expensive part was getting someone to bend the polycarbonate and i'd replace that with UV stable Lexan on the next one and double the life to 35 years

    anyone know any alternate energy companies who'd like to look at this?? i aint after millions just some jobs

    cheers

    jack
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    Have it in a format other than PPT? I'm interested in viewing your stuff.
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    sorry mate not really

    what other formats are there??
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    No clue. I only use my PC for regular internet stuff. I'm not a "PC Guy."
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    Ranger-1:

    The systems that uses solar or windmills to generate power and connects to the local power grid seems to be the one of choice today. The power company is required by law (at least in California) to buy back the excess power you generate (electric meter runs backwards) and at night you draw power from the grid. But the best I have heard is that it is a ten year payback from the savings and the government contribution. That's a long time and few of us are in a house for much more than ten years.

    Solar cells are very inefficient devices. They have been working for many decades trying to improve them with only small gains. The time has yet to come when this approach is viable, in my mind. But a break through is possible (compare computers of the 1980's with today's!).

    It appears you live somewhere close to me (So Cal High Desert) as your rates are pretty much the same as mine. I too have AC but use a large window swamp cooler in the summer except on the very humid days (only a few days a year where I live). The swamp cooler did reduce my cooling cost but of course I have to live with a bit higher temperatures than I would with AC. A few fans, shorts and a tee shirt and I'm comfortable.

    LDBennett
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    Interesting presentation Jack.
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    Jack, you are smarter than the average bear. Dont give up on that project. Someone is bound to be interested.
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    if you go to the outback in the northern territory you can meet the realk designer yourself

    Termites

    you know those 10 cent fans they have at shows? made of shiny plastic that go round in the wind?

    i stuck one in a termite mound i was using as a target for 300 meters ( there was lots of mounds so i picked one dead on 300 where we where camped, and used the fan thing to make sure we where shooting at the right one)

    anyway there was no wind but the fan was going like crazy

    and me being me i looked into why

    10 years later this is the result or the mark 1 was

    another 10 years on and i'm still fiddling but i spent what i had on patching myself up and ran short on funding and dealing with crooks who tryed to rip off the idea etc etc etc

    and yes i have pics
    but

    the cone is not a 100% cone

    and thats the real secret to making it work and a photo would give that part away

    no offence but.

    i wanna cover my backside a little bit

    it will work with a straight sided cone and make good power

    but if you want to get 100% efficency theres some tricks to it that i've sussed out and am not shareing till i have a hand shake or contract type deal

    its really all the protection i have

    so dont think too badly of me but i have removed all pics i did have off the net, you tube etc

    and with wind turbines becomeing even more efficient folks can build straight off that and power thier homes etc cheap and it will work
    but for commercial stuff you'll need the full plans and well like i said i aint after a million bucks just some jobs but i aint got the $$$ to do it myself , hence chaseing contracts for feral animal control..

    i put that out under GPL free to use for non commercial applications

    cheers

    jack
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