Soldier doubts eligibility, defies president's orders

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  1. Marlin T

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    [FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+2]Soldier doubts eligibility, defies president's orders[/SIZE][/FONT]
    [FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]'As an officer, my sworn oath to support and defend our Constitution requires this'[/SIZE][/FONT]

    [SIZE=-1]Posted: February 23, 2009
    9:35 pm Eastern

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    [FONT=Palatino, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times, serif]By Bob Unruh[/FONT]
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    Soldier Scott Easterling
    A U.S. soldier on active duty in Iraq has called President Obama an "impostor" in a statement in which he affirmed plans to join as plaintiff in a challenge to Obama's eligibility to be commander in chief.
    The statement was publicized by California attorney Orly Taitz who, along with her Defend Our Freedom Foundation, is working on a series of legal cases seeking to uncover Obama's birth records and other documents that would reveal whether he meets the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.
    "As an active-duty officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of president of the United States," wrote Scott Easterling in a "to-whom-it-may-concern" letter.
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    Obama "has absolutely refused to provide to the American public his original birth certificate, as well as other documents which may prove or disprove his eligibility," Easterling wrote. "In fact, he has fought every attempt made by concerned citizens in their effort to force him to do so."
    Taitz told WND she had advised Easterling to obtain legal counsel before making any statements regarding the commander-in-chief, but he insisted on moving forward. His contention is that as an active member of the U.S. military, he is required to follow orders from a sitting president, and he needs – on [COLOR=blue! important][FONT='Times New Roman', Georgia, Serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT='Times New Roman', Georgia, Serif]pain[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] of court-martial – to know that Obama is eligible.
    Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 250,000 others and sign up now!
    Taitz said other legal cases questioning Obama's eligibility filed by members of the military mostly have included retired officers, and courts several times have ruled they don't have standing to issue their challenge.
    Easterling, however, is subject to enemy fire and certainly would have a reason to need to know the legitimacy of his orders, she argued.
    "Until Mr. Obama releases a 'vault copy' of his original birth certificate for public review, I will consider him neither my Commander in Chief nor my President, but rather, a usurper to the Office – an impostor," his statement said.
    Easterling said he joined the Army at age 40 after working in Iraq as a [COLOR=blue! important][FONT='Times New Roman', Georgia, Serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT='Times New Roman', Georgia, Serif]contractor[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR].
    "I chose to work … to support my troops and then left that lucrative position when the Army raised its maximum enlistment age to 40. Upon completion of basic training, I entered Officer Candidate School and commissioned as a 2LT in August 2007. After completing the subsequent basic officer [COLOR=blue! important][FONT='Times New Roman', Georgia, Serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT='Times New Roman', Georgia, Serif]leadership[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] courses, I was assigned to Ft. Knox and shortly thereafter deployed to Balad, Iraq," he wrote.
    "I implore all service-members and citizens to contact their senators and representatives and demand that they require Mr. Obama prove his eligibility. Our Constitution and our great nation must not be allowed to be disgraced," he wrote.
    Taitz said Easterling is among the plaintiffs she is assembling for a new legal action over Obama's eligibility. Others include a list of state lawmakers who also would be required in their official position to follow orders of the president.
    "My conviction is such that I am compelled to join Dr. Orly Taitz's lawsuit, as a plaintiff, against Mr. Obama. As a citizen, it pains me to do this, but as an officer, my sworn oath to support and defend our Constitution requires this action," he said.
    Easterling was "saluted" in a forum on Taitz' website.
    "Lt. Easterling, As a retired US Army SFC, I salute you sir as a true American patriot and hero! Thank you for your unselfish service to our country. It is rare to find someone today with such moral courage to do the right thing regardless of repercussions," said one contributor.
    Said another, "For your voluntary service to our country, we owe you a debt we can never pay."
    As WND reported yesterday, U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said during a meeting with constituents in Cullman County he has never seen proof the new president was born in Hawaii.
    "Well, his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven't seen any birth certificate," Shelby said. "You have to be born in America to be president."
    Shelby's office later stated the senator is confident of Obama's vetting process, although it did not elaborate.
    WND has reported on multiple legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

    The rest of the story is here,
    http://www.wnd.com/static/89837.html
  2. artabr

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    This is going to be real interesting to keep track of.
    Lt. Easterling brings up some excellent points. Hopefully his career won't suffer but it's probably shot already.


    Art
  3. noslolo

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    I hope he does better, than the many others that have tried.
  4. Lori Mick

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    Just found this! Soldier #2 steps up to the plate!

    http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89941

    2nd U.S. soldier in Iraq challenges eligibility
    Says issue could decide if 'we are a Constitutional Republic'

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    Posted: February 24, 2009
    8:30 pm Eastern


    By Bob Unruh
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily


    Another U.S. soldier on active duty in Iraq is joining a challenge to President Obama's eligibility to be commander-in-chief, citing WND's report on 1st Lt. Scott Easterling, who has agreed to be a plaintiff in a lawsuit over the issue, as his inspiration.

    "I was inspired by 1LT Easterling's story and am writing you to inform you that I would like to be added as a plaintiff against Obama as well if you feel it would help your case," the soldier, identified for this report only as a reservist now on active duty in Iraq.

    His letter was directed to California attorney Orly Taitz who, along with her DefendOurFreedom.us Foundation, is working on a series of legal cases seeking to uncover Obama's birth records and other documents that would reveal whether he meets the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

    Easterling, who confirmed separately to WND that he is questioning Obama's authority, wrote to Taitz that, "As an active-duty officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of president of the United States."



    The second soldier wrote, "I am an Army reservist who was activated last August and am currently serving with a military police battalion in Camp Bucca, Iraq. I will be here until at least June 2009."

    He continued, "When I enlisted last year I had to show my birth certificate, as well as my driver's license, high school diploma, college transcripts, social security card; I also filled out loads of paperwork to include listing the names, addresses and phone numbers of my family members and had to answer any questions regarding foreign travel.

    Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 270,000 others and sign up now!

    "I think it is reasonable for Obama to prove his citizenship status thus certifying his eligibility. I too raised my right hand and swore an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States," he told Taitz. "I believe the case you are filing could very well determine if we are in fact a Constitutional Republic or a nation of mob rule. I would be honored to be a part of your efforts."

    Perhaps anticipating a wave of outrage from Obama supporters, he asked that he be given no "unnecessary publicity," although his name eventually would become public when a case is filed.

    Taitz told WND she was making contingency plans that could include her travel to Iraq should a military case be brought against the soldiers who are speaking their minds about Obama.

    "I told him if there is any prosecution, he can get in touch with me. I would even fly to Iraq and work with the attorney there to provide his defense," she told WND.

    She said undoubtedly a part of the defense would be a demand for documentation on Obama's actual qualifications to serve as U.S. president.
  5. carver

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    Add one more to the list that wants to see said birth certificate!
  6. Marlin T

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    Let’s start adding them by the scores at a time.
  7. Mr. Nameless

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    this is perfect, i wonder what knida bull crap obama is gonna say to get outta this crap, he'll probably use his antichrist powers and say its false and just create his own birth records and present them.
  8. ponycar17

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    A girl my wife works with had one of her sons recently come home from Iraq. You know, fulfilling the promise to bring troops home from Iraq and all... The bad news; the other son is being shipped off to Afghanistan. Hey, they're coming out of Iraq, right?... :mad:
  9. RunningOnMT

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    You know this situation is really rather absurd. He is either qualified to be president or he isn't. He is obligated to all of us to prove his eligibility or disqualify himself. This shouldn't have to go to court. The electoral college should demand it asap...before he does any more damage.
  10. Marlin T

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    Pony, that reminds me of the other double speak from Obomba, the probable usurper.

    Gitmo is illegal, but holding people in Afghanistan is alright.

    Sorry to hear about your friends boy. Maybe he should join the above list?
  11. Lori Mick

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    another one added to the list. This time a Major General!

    Major general says president's eligibility needs proof
    'Most important, what I really want is the truth'

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    Posted: February 26, 2009
    11:40 pm Eastern


    By Bob Unruh
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily



    Retired Maj. Gen. Carroll Childers

    On the heels of two active duty members of the U.S. military serving in Iraq calling for President Obama to prove his eligibility to be president, a retired major general has agreed to join the case, saying he just wants "the truth."

    WND reported earlier when 1st Lt. Scott Easterling confirmed to California attorney Orly Taitz that he wanted to be a plaintiff in the legal action she is preparing on behalf of members of the U.S. military, both active and retired. A second soldier who asked that his name be withheld for now became part of the action just a day later.

    Now retired Maj. Gen. Carroll D. Childers has submitted a statement to Taitz and her DefendOurFreedoms.us website, agreeing to be a plaintiff in her pending action.

    "I agree to be a plaintiff in the legal action to be filed by Orly Taitz, Esq. in a petition for a declaratory judgement (sic) that Barack Hussein Obama is not qualified to be president of the U.S., nor to be commander in chief of the U.S. armed forces, in that I am or was a sworn member of the U.S. military (subject to recall)," he wrote.


    If recalled, he would be "unable to follow any orders given by a constitutionally unqualified commander in chief, since by doing so I would be subject to charges of aiding and abetting fraud and committing acts of treason," he wrote.

    In an accompanying letter, Childers said, "What I really want is the truth; is Obama a natural born citizen of the United States. If not a natural born citizen, America has been defrauded and then we would be stuck with Joe Biden whose only redeeming attribute is that he is probably not a communist."

    He said he is an engineer after serving for 38 years in Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, Operation Desert Storm and other locations.

    Childers said there were a long list of reasons he didn't support Obama for president, including "his crime associates in the USA … his promise to make coal power industry bankrupt … his spread the wealth admission … his associations with foreign leaders unfriendly to the USA … (and his lack of) integrity."

    But he said he believes Obama is not eligible to be president, a claim Obama spokesmen have described to WND as "garbage."

    WND has reported on multiple legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

    Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

    Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

    Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 290,000 others and sign up now!

    Several of the cases have involved emergency appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court in which justices have declined to hear arguments. Among the cases turned down without a hearing at the high court have been petitions by Philip Berg, Cort Wrotnowski, Leo Donofrio and Taitz.

    Military.com reported Easterling's concerns following WND's report and confirmed that Army officials said they were aware of the lieutenant's letter. The officials, Military.com said, are trying to balance the "military requirements under the Uniform Code of Military Justice versus critical freedoms that all Americans enjoy."

    Commenters on the website called the soldier "a delusional racist," "moronic and irrelevent (sic)," and undeserving of his uniform.

    However, some defended him.

    "The questions about the POTUS and his birth were questions raised during the campaign – quite often in this website. This question was not always answered in a fashion which was clear cut yea or nay," said one forum contributor. "There are lawsuits ongoing – therefore there are other doubters."

    Said another, "If anybody does their research they find out that a full investigation was conducted regarding McCain's eligibility (born on a military base on foreign soil), but no such investigation was done for BO. BO admits to traveling to Pakistan in 1981, when it was illegal to do so for US citizens at the time, how did he pull that off?

    "Open your eyes, lemmmings (sic)," the participant wrote.

    Another pointed out that the lieutenant certainly has a right to his opinion, but most importantly, he is staying true to his duty.

    "All of your rhetoric truly makes me question your morality. Some of you say that this LT needs to be reprimanded in this way or that, but what you people forget to see through your blinders is that this LT is still fighting the fight, no matter what. He still is part of the reason you have the right to say the things you do. He still believes the American way of life is still precious and should stay that way no matter what. And whether he chooses his God given freedom to voice that God given right is up to him."

    Another had a pointed comment about the entire issue.

    "Why doesn't the president just put his credentials out there and stop all the speculation?"

    Another member of the military who contacted WND, who identified himself only by his initials, explained: "I am in the United States Air Force and I had to produce my birth certificate to enter the service. What documents did Mr. Obama use to enter in the race for president? I had to produce my birth certificate to have a passport issued. Does Mr. Obama have a passport? What documents did he use to get it? My children have to produce their birth certificate to get a driver's license. Does Mr. Obama have a driver's license? What documents did he use to get it? I had to produce a birth certificate to get a Social Security number issued for me and my children. Does Mr. Obama have a Social Security number issued? What documents did he use to get it? "

    Taitz explained the issue isn't resolved as many Obama supporters claim.

    The "Certification of Live Birth" posted on the Internet actually doesn't confirm a birth location.

    "[Hawaii] statute 138 allows foreign born children of HI residents to get HI [Certificates of Live Birth] and get them based on a statement of one relative only," she said.

    She also said Hawaiian officials, while they confirmed a birth certificate exists, did not exclude the possibility it was "one obtained for a foreign born child."

    She also cited Obama's immigration to Indonesia at age 5, when he was considered an Indonesian citizen.

    Also, in a case being handled largely by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation in California, lawyers hired to represent Obama have admitted that such disputes should have been resolved in Congress.

    That case is seeking documentation of Obama's attendance at Occidental College, and in an effort to keep all of those records secret, a law firm has argued that state and federal courts have no authority over the case.

    "Federal law establishes the procedure for election of the President and Vice President and provides the exclusive means for challenges to their qualifications," the court filing said. In the absence of objections filed by members of the Senate and House of Representatives, "which would have been resolved by those bodies," Obama was declared the president.

    Here is a partial listing and status update for some of the cases over Obama's eligibility:

    New Jersey attorney Mario Apuzzo has filed a case on behalf of Charles Kerchner and others alleging Congress didn't properly ascertain that Obama is qualified to hold the office of president.

    Pennsylvania Democrat Philip Berg has three cases pending, including Berg vs. Obama in the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, a separate Berg vs. Obama which is under seal at the U.S. District Court level and Hollister vs. Soetoro a/k/a Obama, brought on behalf of a retired military member who could be facing recall to active duty by Obama.


    Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.

    Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut's secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.

    Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public's support.

    Chicago attorney Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama's vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.


    Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama's eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama's citizenship. His case was denied.


    In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.


    In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama's citizenship. The case was denied.


    In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama's birth certificate. His request for an injunction against Georgia's secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.

    California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs. Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters.
    In addition, other cases cited on the RightSideofLife blog as raising questions about Obama's eligibility include:

    In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.


    In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.


    In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.


    In Washington, L. Charles Cohen vs. Obama.


    In Hawaii, Keyes vs. Lingle, dismissed.
    WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi had gone to both Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions, the biggest being why, if there exists documentation of Obama's eligibility, hasn't it been released to quell the rumors.

    Instead, a series of law firms have been hired on Obama's behalf around the nation to prevent any public access to his birth certificate, passport records, college records and other documents.
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    We are 17 short of a score, but a Major General this time. Hummmm

    Thanks for the update Lori.
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    wow...this is phenomenal! Definitely a "first" in this country! (any country?)

    As discouraged as I've been about the goings on in the US, it does me so much good to see people speaking out and taking action, rather than merely shrugging their shoulders and giving in. Maybe the spirit of our Founding Fathers isn't dead, after all!!

    Justice will prevail one way or another...God will see to it...
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