Songman,what say you now?

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by Willie, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. Willie

    Willie Active Member

    Jul 31, 2003
    I think I feel an apology coming. Remember the thread "Cain is done" ? You sure were awfully hard on me then and now I think your position is sketchy at best.
  2. H-D

    H-D Active Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    never discuss politics or religion with anyone who you think is your friend ;)

  3. raven818

    raven818 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2011
    Jax, Fl.
    I think he'll make his announcement soon, maybe tomorrow. His wife went on national television defending him. This newest female has a dark history. But, if it's been 13 years, there are tons of folks, I'm sure, who will step out of the shadows to back her up.

    You might be able to hide a quickie or two, but not 13 years of them.
  4. 45nut

    45nut Well-Known Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    Don't crow just yet Willie, you might still be wrong! :D
  5. ofitg

    ofitg Active Member

    Feb 25, 2010
    Yeah, this case hasn't been proven one way or the other. The woman has produced phone records as evidence of a long-term relationship with Cain, but it might have been a long-term platonic friendship just as Cain says.

    If the woman (or investigators) dig up airline manifests and old hotel records to show that Cain flew her around the country to accompany him on speaking engagements, that would be a lot more incriminating.

    The woman's background suggests that she could be the type to "embellish" the facts if she thought she could get a pile of money in the process.

    I wouldn't read too much into Cain's announcement that he will "reassess" his campaign. He never had much money or organization to start with, and he probably recognizes that a lot of people have already jumped to conclusions after this latest allegation.

    I'm not trying to claim that Cain is innocent, cause I don't really know, I'm just saying that we should wait and see how this story plays out.
  6. Willie

    Willie Active Member

    Jul 31, 2003
    I wish I was wrong but I just think he has done these things. Why would a man do this? A feeling of power and entitlement. Not the best qualities for prez.
  7. Willie

    Willie Active Member

    Jul 31, 2003
    Well said. I have to wonder why this has not happened to any other candidate for all the same reasons used in Cain's defense. Tawdry ho's trying to get money and lying to get it. Why just Cain? Because he is black? I don't think so. The pols that have had these same probs over the years ALL did it! you know the list and none of them ever were proven innocent. As time went on all had more things revealed. I think the rest of the field is clean,so far. At least on the sex stuff.
  8. ofitg

    ofitg Active Member

    Feb 25, 2010
    My wife and I were talking about this..... a couple of weeks ago the Dem Nat'l Committee was airing anti-Romney ads here in Phoenix. And suddenly, Cain is experiencing these tons of dirt falling out of the sky.

    So far, Gingrich has been getting the kid-glove treatment from the DNC and the establishment media.

  9. Willie

    Willie Active Member

    Jul 31, 2003
    I don't know about that. Gingrich has been questioned about financial dealings
    both personally and as a businessman. Making a bunch of money from taxpayer agencies and personally spending huge at Neiman Marcus. All,however appears legal and above board so the noise died down. And Newt denied nothing and was open and clear in his response.
  10. ofitg

    ofitg Active Member

    Feb 25, 2010
    Gingrich was interviewed by O'Reilly this week. They laughed about his ad (appearing with Pelosi) promoting environmentalism. Newt said the ad was a mistake and then grinned. Nobody mentioned that the ad was not just about enviromentalism, it was a promotion for Al Gore's group.
    They went on to talk about illegal immigration. O'Reilly was leading/coaching Gingrich, asking if what he really wanted was a national registry of the people who are here illegally. Gingrich faltered for a moment, and then said "yes". O'Reilly proceeded to fill in the details - anybody who failed to register would be subject to immediate deportation, etc - Gingrich agreed again. Gingrich never explained exactly what he had in mind during the recent debate when he suggested that illegals should get to stay if they've been here for 25 years.

    I dunno, man, it seems to me that even Fox News Channel is trying to help Gingrich put makeup on his warts. Perry's standing in the polls took a nose-dive after he expressed a similar position on illegals, but Newt is still the Golden Boy.
  11. Caneman

    Caneman Active Member

    Oct 22, 2010
    Perry started to take a nose dive in the polls when he looked like an utter fool during the last two debates... Perry is "all hat and no cattle" as they say is Texas...
  12. ofitg

    ofitg Active Member

    Feb 25, 2010
    Yeah, I remember it as being a "one-two punch" scenario. Perry was billed as the Super Conservative, but then he expressed sympathy for the illegal immigrants and everybody gasped in amazement.
    The final blow was when he stepped on his dork during a subsequent debate, not being able to recite the three gov't agencies he wanted to abolish. Kinda felt sorry for the guy, I have brain-farts too, but my brain-farts aren't seen by the entire world ;)
  13. BullShoot

    BullShoot New Member

    May 9, 2010
    missouri ozarks
    Maybe we can be fortunate enough to have a convention select the candidate instead of a few state polls and a lot of media blather deciding for us.

    It used to work - for both parties.

  14. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk New Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    South Central Texas
    I think this attack is because this is the one candidate that Obama can't
    use the race card on. Although it wouldn't carry as much weight now, since we
    have had a black pres. I'm glad Powell did not run, as I would have voted
    for him. He proved his true colors with Obama. i believe he endorsed Obama because of color only.
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  15. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    i personally think the original post should have been removed ,

    have your different opinion , but to narrr narr na na narr someone about one thread in a new one , smells a bit "directed" to me ..

    hearing why or what is not the issue to me , the issue is the title and the OP ..

    keep it calm folks , not everyone thinks the same .

    i was told i was a moron and worse when i said a unknown black candidate would run for office and win it ( he was still only a senator then)

    i've never needed to correct the thousands that told me i knew nothing of US politics , i figured you had all been punished enough already , Quietly satisfied is a good thing .. except when the reality is such as it is ...

    vindication , look up the meaning ..

    cheers folks
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