Spot the Liberal Gun-grabbing Sheriff

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by Silencer, May 12, 2010.

  1. Silencer

    Silencer Well-Known Member

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    what does the law actually say? She doesn't sound like a "gun grabber," but then again it can be hard to tell from snippets within a 3 minute video. I like when her claim to have issued 90% of CCW requests was rebuffed with. "the public data shows something more like 60%." And that was after the number of requests fell from 40 per month to 8!
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    Who is she to say that certain areas are worse than others. Crime happens at every level and the bottom line is that cops cant protect us. She is wrong and will loose her position in this election. Its time to get them all out of there.
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    The criteria should be:

    Are you a law abiding citizen?
    Do you feel you need to have a CCW to protect your life and family?

    Here you go. Be sure to hit center mass at least 2 times, then call 911.


    I like the rebuttal about trying to get a CCW in LA county. Pretty sweet. :D :D
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    She is accusing him of issuing permits to his buddies...
    Thats a strong accusation against a sheriff.
    LA county good luck with that wild west area!
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    Trouble 45-70 New Member

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    Wish we could get these kinds of debates in all counties with all candidates posted on U-Tube. That would be informative and very useful in comparing candidates.
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    Thats the problem with may issue. If you meet the states criteria then they should have no other choice and there should be a time limit on it as well.
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    Agreed Terry, the problem with any putting the choice of whether or not you may carry in another humans hands is that it will be colored by that persons beliefs or even their personal idiosyncrasies and prejudices.

    Shall issue resolves that problem by tying the issuance of a CCW to law and not to the whim of a sheriff or other servant of "We The People".

    Personally, I think working for a CCW law at all is like asking permission to breath. The Constitution says "shall not be infringed". That is black and white. No gray areas.

    Vermont, Arizona, Alaska style carry law is Constitutional law. No Shall issue. No may issue. Just do as you please. Thank you.

    The question of whether a criminal will carry illegally is stupid because they will do so regardless of any law. Duh.

    So any law regarding firearms restricts law abiding citizens which is un-Constitutional.

    Laws that go beyond the simple and direct are a way to control the law abiding. They are not designed to control the lawless. We call them lawless for a reason. That is not because they are law abiding is it.

    The world appears to be heading in the direction of responsible carry by anyone with the desire anyway, whether we want it to or not. Self -defense is understood by all creatures great and small. The mouse will bite, the cat scratches, The dog bites, the bull stomps, the lion roars.

    I spoke with a human recently that said she would not defend herself or family if attacked. Fine, just don't interfere with me.
    Last edited: May 21, 2010
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