Sprinfield Savage Model 1906 .22 pump guns

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  1. aa1911

    aa1911 Active Member

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    We have 3 of these in our family, 2 rifles and a carbine; the link is a picture of one, just curious to see who else has and shoots these things. I used to use one of the better rifles religiously for squirrel in PA. 7 shot mag, has a tang peep sight on it as well, the thing is deadly accurate.

    Other rifle and carbine have not so great bores, don't really shoot them, they're more wallhangers and parts guns.

    http://rifleman.org.uk/Savage_1908_22_magazine_and_Patent.htm

    The problem is finding magazines, we have 3 now I think finally. Found one years ago at a gunshow here in WA, had it for $60 which was a fair price. I gave a lowball offer in the hopes the guy didn't know what it was but he looked at me after some bickering and said "young man, six.... zero...."

    I pulled out 3 twenties and off I went, prized gem in hand. :D
  2. steve99f

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    aa1911,

    It sounds like the rifles you have are the Model 1903 Savage pump 22RF and the Model 1909 pump 22RF. The only differences between the two are the 24 inch octagon bbl on the 1903 and the 20 inch round bbl on the 1909.

    The 1903 was never identified by the Model except in the catalogues. The 1909 is model marked on the bbl just in front of the frame and behind the sight. These were never marked as a Springfield, only Savage. The 1906 date is a patent date that appears on later bbls but is not the Model name.

    I am sending you a PM.
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  3. GunHugger

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    If you can post a pic or two of the mags I might have one. I have some 22 mags around here that I don't know what they fit so it's possible.
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    Gunhuggger,

    There are some variations to these magazines. I'll try to attached a pic or two,

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    Rocketman1 Well-Known Member

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    aa1911,

    I have a Savage 1909 .22 youth rifle with the 20” Barrel. It will shoot the SL or LR. Mine has a 5 round magazine. The rifle is a blast to shoot. When I take it to the range everyone swares I have a silencer on it. Sounds more like aBB gun. I have been having trouble with it recently, so it hasnt seen much action this year. I have been getting light strikes, and the magazine dosen't want to fit right anymore either. I'm not sure if a new magazine would solve the problem or not, if and when I can find one.
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    Rocketman1 Well-Known Member

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    Just to a look at the magazine for mine.
    On one side it says: "23A Sporter OR NRA Match Rifle".
    On the other side it says: "22 Long Rifle Savage Arms Corp. Pat - April 28, 1908. The barrel is stamped "Modle 1909 22 Cal S.L. & L.R.", Pat Date is Dec 25, 1906.
  7. aa1911

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    thanks fellas! I will have to look at the markings on mine, don't remember off the top of my head now. Thanks for the photos too Steve!

    The 3 mags I have are all 7 rounders and have worked perfect for me. At least I have one per gun now. The rifles are quiet... the rifles are octogon barrels the carbine has a round barrel. My good rifle has a nice flip up tang peep sight on it as well, very very accurate gun.
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    I have the same sight, and I love it. My eyes are not what they use to be and the peep hole sight is fantastic.
  9. steve99f

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    Rocketman1,

    You have the wrong magazine for your 1909. What you haveis for the Savage Model 23A, or model 19/1919. Should have the knurled button on the bottom. They do look similar but aren't made to be interchangeable.

    Private message in bound to you.
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    The magazines shown are earlier magazines. Notice they do not have a patent date stamped into them. Later ones do. Also notice that the top photo shows only the L & LR cartridges while the bottom pic gives you S,L&LR. Savage made the 1903 available in 22 short only and 22 S,L,& LR for a couple of years at the beginning ofproduction.

    Besides fewer parts than the tube magazine pump guns like the Rem M-12/121, Winchester M-61, the later magazines prevented the bolt from closing on an empty magazine, thus preventing dry firing. Cool old guns!
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  11. Rocketman1

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    I suspected that when I posted the info on the magazine yesterday that said Model 23A. I don't think I had ever looked at it that close before. That may explain why I'm having problems with it, although the problems have only been recent. The magazine does have a round knurled button on the bottom. I appreciate the information sending you a PM with S/N.
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    Steve,

    So would the bottom photo be similar to the magazine that would be used in my 1909?
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    Rocketman1,

    The correct vintage magazine for your 1909 would be stamped with the april 1908 patent date with the company name and city and state and show S, L, LR.

    However, any 1903 magazine will work with you 1909. They turn up on auction sites, there is one on gun... right now. Check fleabay too.
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    Rocketman1,

    I'll try to get a look though my old magazine box tomorrow.
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    Thanks Steve!

    I appreciate you checking the date of manuafacture, and the information on the magazine.
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    Rocketman1 Well-Known Member

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    Thnat would be great!
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    I have savage model 1903 22 pump looking for bolt. by any chance do you have one. i believe 1906 and1909 used same bolt. if so email me wee_one1954@frontier.com
  19. aa1911

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    I will certainly keep my eyes peeled but don't have any spare parts for these yet.

    have you tried Numrich yet? I'll do an internet search, curious myself to see if there's still parts available.
  20. flyingtiger85

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    I have a tube feed Savage pump 22 and love to shoot it.Yours is an interesting design.It's the first time I've seen one like that.
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