Surplus Ammo and Steel Cases

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  1. CountryGunsmith

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    zombiedawg
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    I want to buy some ammo in bulk, but I have heard ya'll talk about Wolf and other 7.62 being tough on rifles.

    Is there a good supplier of bulk .223 ammo. It would be foe a Ruger Ranch Rifle?

    What would ya'll consider a good price per 1000?

    polishshooter
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    (10/13/01 7:03:26 pm)
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    I've only shot about 60 rds or so through my SKS, but the Wolf stuff worked fine, both HP and FMJ, had no problems...at $1.89/20 I paid for it, it's FINE stuff...
    I'm so PROUD to be an AMERICAN...

    Flhunter
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    (10/13/01 7:11:47 pm)
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    Bob In St Louis
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    (10/13/01 8:41:34 pm)
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    The sites suggested by FlHunter are good - check there. As to .223 - if you are just looking for blasting/plinking ammo, any non-corrosive military is fine. There is a lot of it out there. Just go for the cheapist.

    Now 7.62 - are you talking about 7.62 x 39, 7.62 x 54R, 7.62 NATO (.30 , or one of the other more obtuse 7.62 (such as the Czech 7.62 x 45)? Frankly, there is nothing wrong with the Russian Wolf brand, or the Russian Barnal Machine Factory made stuff. The bad Russian stuff is the older military crud. There are some fine soft point hunting loads made by the Barnal Machine Factory in 7.62 x 54R and 7.62 x 39.
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    Tac401
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    (10/13/01 10:34:11 pm)
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    Folks,

    The thing that's not too good with using steel
    cases instead of brass cases is that shooting
    too much steel cased ammo will eventually
    screw up the chamber of the weapon.
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    zombiedawg
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    (10/14/01 9:01:28 am)
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    How many rounds of steel case ammo is it going to take to screw up a rifle and how serious is it?

    Tac401
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    (10/15/01 12:20:05 am)
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    Not sure how many and as far as the damage
    goes, after awhile it takes it's toll inside the
    chamber, It's been awhile so I don't remember
    all of the details however, maybe Doc or one
    of the others can fill in the details, meanwhile
    I'll try to find the exact info.

    I have used it in AK's and such before without
    a problem but as far as commercial rifles it may
    be a little tricky, I strictly use brass after comming
    acroos this info, I think "Small Arms Review" had
    an article on this also awhile back.
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    southernfreedom
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    (10/15/01 9:37:08 am)
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    Well, Tac401, I shall respectfully disagree with your
    comments on using steel casings. I have used thousands in both my SKS's
    and my AK's with no damage. I "bump" shoot 10 steel case "Wolf" rounds per
    second in my AK with no apparent damage. Same rate of fire in my SKS with
    no apparent damage. But then again, maybe time will prove me wrong.

    Tac401
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    (10/15/01 4:12:52 pm)
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    SF,

    Military rifles are made to handle the abuse a bit
    more however, commercial rifles is another story.

    I own and sell lot of military firearms including
    machineguns and their tolerences are higher
    than standard commercial weapons.
    The Firearms Forum Vietnam Memories Bulletin Board Contact Administrator

    Edited by: Tac401 at: 10/15/01 5:15:32 pm
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