survival idea

Discussion in 'Self Defense Tactics & Weapons' started by Appliancedude, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. Appliancedude

    Appliancedude Well-Known Member

    Please feel free to shoot this down. I was reading a issue of backwoodsman this morning and got to thinking about survival tactics.

    How far would the flash of a shell loaded with only powder be seen at night?

    My thought would be to prime some empty shells, (would be good use for shells that have slight cracks and can't be reloaded) and carry a vial of powder. At night, pour some powder in the shell, carefully load it to not spill it and fire it off. I'm thinking rescue people searching at night would be able to see it for a long distance.

    What do you think?
     
  2. You need a flare not a spark. If nobody is looking in your direction or you are obscured by terrain it will be invisible. A signal fire would be better coupled with a whistle you could blow three blasts on at intervals. 3 is the sign of distress and a whistle carries a long ways. The glow of even a small fie plus the smell of the smoke if you feed it greenery will do you better than a blank shell.
     

  3. aa1911

    aa1911 Well-Known Member

    Dec 12, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    and smokeless isn't really gonna go bang with no pressure either. Black powder would but it's so quick, doubt anyone would see it.

    build a fire if you can and shoot your distress signal is my vote also if you're stuck

    I carry pen gun flares with me in the survival kit but also a roadside fuse, those things are bright! they can be seen 30+ miles, ask me how I know
     
  4. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    That blank shell could be better used to start a fire which will be seen a lot further at night than the powder flash. Just be careful not to blast your tender in all directions. Place it under some rocks that create a little room for the fire. In the day time build a large fire and put green brush on it, lots of smoke that can eaisly be seen from a search plane. And don't skimp on that whistle, buy a good one.
     
  5. Appliancedude

    Appliancedude Well-Known Member

    OK, bad idea. Thanks for crushing my idea guys:D Na seriously, I wasn't sure how far that flash could be seen, ok back to the magazine
     
  6. Deacon_Man

    Deacon_Man Active Member

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    Feb 23, 2010
    Weatherford Texas
    How about tracer shells fired into the air ?
     
  7. They make flares to be fired out of a 12 ga. Why reinvent the wheel?
     
  8. GunnyGene

    GunnyGene New Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Just get a strobe from any Army/Navy store. Or even a LED lite you can stick in your pocket. Good ones are small, lightweight, inexpensive, and good for a minimum of 24 hrs continuous use.
     
  9. RYANINMICHIGAN

    RYANINMICHIGAN Member

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    Jan 29, 2012
    Google "drragons breath shotgun load" Holy $hit does it throw a flame.
     
  10. targetacqmgt

    targetacqmgt New Member

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    Sep 21, 2012
    Maybe air searchers might see it BUT avoid the location:eek:
     
  11. Clipper

    Clipper Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2010
    Amarillo, TX
    Flying off the carrier, we were issued .38's loaded with tracer for signaling devices. One black night, one of my intrepid aviator pals went in the water, exited the aircraft, manned his raft and proceeded to bounce tracers off the bridge of the Destroyer Plane Guard. The Captain of the tin can got on his PA and said "Son, we'll pick you up when you run out of bullets." He was chided severely for his antics when he got back on board ship.
     
  12. targetacqmgt

    targetacqmgt New Member

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    Sep 21, 2012
    LOL He is lucky the tincan secondary armament did not take him under fire OR bill him for the tincans new paint job:D
     
  13. Recon 173

    Recon 173 Member

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    Apr 11, 2008
    Central Illinois
    Pen flare kits. You can fire those up into the air and they get seen for miles and miles. Normal guesses are that they can be seen 6 miles in the daylight and upwards of 12+ miles at nighttime. You can also get shotgun flare shells for signalling purposes too. Imagine shooting a 12 gauge flare shell up into the air when you have an emergency of some kind at night. I'd almost bet that satellites in orbit could pick up on some of those shotgun flares...
     
  14. 12ga tracer? :dance:
     
  15. Bill DeShivs

    Bill DeShivs Well-Known Member

    Apr 7, 2006
    A cheap little AAA powered laser is handy. The more expensive green ones are even better!
     
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