1. Get Gear'd Up! Enter to WIN $1000 in gear!

    Please Click Here for full details and to enter. You will need to be registered and logged in to view the details and to participate.

    Thanks and good luck to everyone

Syracuse Arms Damascus Double Barrel?

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by Robert, Sep 1, 2003.

  1. Robert

    Robert New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2003
    Messages:
    13
    Location:
    Hood River, Oregon (The Gorge)
    First, my name is Robert. This is my first post here, I am glad to have found this site, looks like a good campfire. I found the site when I was doing a search for info about an 1893 Syracuse Arms Double Shotgun. It is also marked 'New Era Nitro Hammerless.' Someone had posted some info about L.C.Smith, and aparently he was involved with Syracuse Arms, but I havent been able to find any info on this specific gun. I sure would appreciate any help. Thanks.
  2. Xracer

    Xracer *TFF Admin Staff Mediator*

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2001
    Messages:
    9,141
    Location:
    Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet!
    Hi Robert......welcome to TFF.

    I've checked thru my reference materials and can't find anything on the Syracuse Arms company.

    I know there was such a company, because every once in a while I see their shotguns up for sale.....

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976318026.htm

    I've also heard that L.C. Smith worked for, or was involved with, another gunmaker in Syracuse, NY, before he started his own company, but whether or not that was Syracuse Arms, I don't know.

    L.C. Smith made shotguns under his own name in Syracuse from 1880 until 1888.....so even if he had been associated with Syracuse Arms earlier in has career, he wasn't there when your shotgun was made.

    Let me do some more checking around and I'll see if I can come up with something.
  3. Xracer

    Xracer *TFF Admin Staff Mediator*

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2001
    Messages:
    9,141
    Location:
    Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet!
  4. warpig

    warpig Guest

    I am on the trail as well.

    So far I have found

    The Syracuse Arms Company was a gunmaker located in Syracuse New York from 1888 to 1908.
  5. warpig

    warpig Guest

    Here is more from shotgun expert Russ Ruppel.

    I would believe these dates over the ones I posted above, as the website I found the others on had a bnch of information that is screwed up.

    Russ is a double shotgun historian and generally knows his stuff.


  6. Smokin Guns

    Smokin Guns New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2002
    Messages:
    4,462
    Location:
    "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"...
    Welcome Robert! Looks like these fella's are on the trail for ya. I'll take a peek around too!...;)
  7. Robert

    Robert New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2003
    Messages:
    13
    Location:
    Hood River, Oregon (The Gorge)
    Thanks Warpig and Xtrtacer

    Some interesting data there, especially the aricle by Russ Rupel. I looked further and found mine is marked '0' grade. dosent sound like it could be worth more than a few hundered bucks. It is in pretty decent condition though. A freind of mine is interested in it for his hunter safety course to demonstrate the Damascus barrel, and I will probably make a good deal to him for it. I sure am glad I found this website, I posted a link on my favorite forum for the rest of the guys that I usually yak with. www.flyinglead.info
    Feel free to drop on in sometime. It is a great bunch over there too.
  8. warpig

    warpig Guest

    I am glad we could help. Don't be a stranger:)
  9. rick morris

    rick morris New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    73
    My syracuse is a 00 model 70% stock still in good shape some bluing gone I talked with a dealer at the last charlotte gun show aboutthe syracuse He said the market for these old guns is on the rise due to so few manafactured and so few left in functioning condition becareful when you sale they will not be making any more of these fine guns and the ones left will only go up in value if taken care of and not messed with just thought i would relay this info rick morris
  10. briandowalter

    briandowalter New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2008
    Messages:
    1
    i also have just purchased a damascuss syracuse double barrel shotgun the only markings i can find on the outside of the barrel are syracuse company syracuse, ny. On the opposite side "new twist". Are you aware of other characteristic markings anywhere on this particular shotgun? Is it authentic and if so, how much do you think it's worth? Hammerless, black powder shotgun. Thanks for any help or info you could offer.
  11. rick morris

    rick morris New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2008
    Messages:
    73
    Take off the forarm and look under at the receiver it might be marked there
  12. Dan Boone

    Dan Boone New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2008
    Messages:
    1
    I have a Syracuse Arms Company double barrel that has been in the family a very long time. It says " The Hollenbeck" made by Syracuse Arms Company It has serial ##4671 and has a Damascus Barrell. It is in very good condition and I believe it is a 12 gauge but can't be sure. We can not find any other markings but would like to know it's value approximately. I would appreciate your help, Dan
  13. Anchor Clanker

    Anchor Clanker Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    230
    Location:
    Vacaville,California
    Good Morning Robert. (good name, same as my sons)
    I have four listings for guns with some form of the name NEW ERA. Two of them are
    New Era Gun Works, New York Nitro Hammerless and New Era Gun Works New York Hammerless Pat. August 12 1884. These guns are hammerless models (of course) and were made by the Baker Gun & Forging Co. The third name is New Era Gun Works New York Hammerless Pat. August 12 1884 with 2 Quail in a Circle. This gubn was made in Belgium by Simonnis, Janssen & Dumoulin of Leige Belgium. Look for a Belgian proof mark consisting of the letters "ELG" in an oval stamped on the bottom of the barrels under the forearm. The fourth name is just New Era Gun Works and the reference says that this name was possibly used by Baker Gun & Forging on some shotguns.
  14. chopper2534

    chopper2534 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    Mississippi
    I am currently doing a restoration on a Syracuse Arms Triplet Steel double barrel and I am trying to locate a Schematic for this firearm, does anyone know where I might locate this item.
    Thanks
  15. Bob Mc

    Bob Mc New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2009
    Messages:
    1
    I have found in my father's safety deposit box, after his death, a US Revolver Co. .32 caliber revolver with serial number, 12706. It is in excellent condition. What is it worth?
Similar Threads
Forum Title Date
The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum Syracuse Arms New Twist Double Barrel- Early 1900's?? Sep 16, 2011
The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum Syracuse Arms 12 Gauge shotgun question? Apr 29, 2011
The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum Syracuse arms "coach gun" Jul 6, 2009
The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum syracuse arms shotguns Jan 15, 2008
The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum Syracuse Arms Co. Dec 10, 2007

Share This Page