Tech Tips - Taurus Millennium

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  1. CountryGunsmith

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    Step 1:

    Pay somebody to kick you in the dangles with golf cleats. This will get you in the mood for this particular job.

    Step 2:

    Will post it when I have it figured out...


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    SkiingFool1974
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    (5/28/02 10:40:44 pm)
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    Please let us know! That's something I'd be interested in doing.... once I get my Millennium back from Taurus

    Evan

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    OK. On this particular gun (PT111 9mm), field stripping was almost impossible. Got the slide assembly away from the frame, but the barrel would NOT come out of the slide. The screw that holds the front sight on had not been trimmed correctly at the factory and was preventing the barrel being removed. Problem #1 fixed.

    The Millenniums are DAO, but somewhat unique in that the trigger engages the striker every time you pull the trigger and is not dependent upon rearward movement of the slide to engage the bearing surface. On its face, this is a good thing until you look at how they went about it. There is a coverplate on the underside of the slide held by a screw. Underneath is a small, thin lever and an absolutely microscopic coil spring. Without a doubt, the cheesiest setup I've seen since the good ole RG days. If you don't ABSOLUTELY have to take this down for repair, don't mess with it. I wish I hadn't.

    On to the trigger pull. The only way to lighten the trigger is to alter the striker spring. The design would indicate that resting length of the spring is crucial to reliable ignition, so coils must not be clipped from the spring. There is no commercially-available spring kit for this pistol, so I set about figuring what diameter spring stock would be best. The problem is that there is also a firing pin retracting spring, and the factory striker spring already has just the minimum force needed to overcome the retracting spring for reliable ignition. Scratch lightening the trigger pull.

    I figured I would just have to smooth the pull out and be happy with that. The trigger pull on these guns stack horribly toward the end of pull (another spring function - gotta live with it) but are rough as cobs. Examination of the striker tunnel in the slide showed very rough machine marks as if it were never polished at all. Polished as much as I could without creating excessive play for the striker, and it still is rough as a cob.

    So... almost six hours of bench work (with several interruptions) with a net result of.... zero. If anyone is thinking about getting one of these guns, do yourself a favor and buy something - anything - else.






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    Zigzag2
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    (5/29/02 9:02:40 pm)
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    Thanks for passing on that info Dr.
    I personally won't run into that problem. My choice in weapons are better to start with.

    Xracer
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    Ah, yes, another quality firearm from Taurus!

    SkiingFool1974
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    (5/30/02 6:57:56 pm)
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    <<So... almost six hours of bench work (with several interruptions) with a net result of.... zero. If anyone is thinking about getting one of these guns, do yourself a favor and buy something - anything - else.>>

    I wish you had posted this 6 months ago when I picked up my Millennium!

    Mine is actually right now being worked on at Taurus because of a broken trigger assembly. I like the gun, but jeeze, breaking on me after under 500 rounds..... think it's time to sell it and pick up a real pistol.... I think I hear a Kimber calling my name.

    Evan
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