The 2nd Amend. Ain't As It's Written ....

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by JohnHenry, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. JohnHenry

    JohnHenry Well-Known Member

  2. hogger129

    hogger129 Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2009
    By the same reasoning, cars and prescription drugs should be illegal too. I don't worry too much because I know I'm not giving up my guns no matter what they threaten to do to me.

  3. cutter

    cutter New Member

    Aug 3, 2008
    Same old liberal BS. Don't waste your time trying to chage there mids. Try teachig the younger ones the truth!!!

  4. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    "The Second Amendment reads, “A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

    Just more lies to make it seem that they know what they are talking about. What's wrong with the quote above?
  5. armoredman

    armoredman Active Member

    Gun ownership falls so sharply that NICS checks have been at an all time high for almost 4 years running. Gee, what a "decline".
    I see they put parenthesis around "has a right to be" in relation to SYG, as if we cannot know or decide where we have a right to be? I need a government locator to tell me I have no right to be where I am?
    Wow, we're porn dealers, too! Can I have a box of 40SW 180 grain JHP and "Debbie Does the GunShow"?
    When you can guarantee my safety without having to be armed, when all the criminals, police and enemy foreign powers disarm down to the last slingshot, then maybe I'll think about it.
    It's well written, with enough "research" to mask the bias, but it is heavily biased against private ownership, and supports the twin liberal conclusions that A), the 2A really does only support the National Guard theory, and B) all gun owners are to be held at fault for the actions of a few.
    At no time is the idea that all the shootings that are written about could have been stopped if one of the victims were armed.
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2012
  6. Gun Geezer

    Gun Geezer Well-Known Member

    Oct 5, 2009
    Central Florida
    This article makes perfect sense as long as it is correct in its assumption that everyone is a "self respecting or law abiding" citizen. If you can't rely on "self respecting" or "law abiding" then it is just a bunch of meaningless words written by a do-gooder, liberal windbag who can't see the forest for the trees. There are fewer violent crimes perpetrated by lawful gun owners than vehicular homicides by licensed drivers. The police today all carry guns and have a hard enough time protecting themselves. Lawful citizens deserve at least the same chance. Of course there will be some abuses. Of course there will be some mistakes. Freedom sometimes comes at a great cost. It's what makes it such a valued commodity! I suggest anti-gunners spend their time more productively trying to teach people to handle and use guns properly or move to some country that has already banned it's citizens from owning guns. See if they feel safer there.
  7. Iron Eagle

    Iron Eagle Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2012
    The latest issue of the nra magazine tells some very disturbing things. Rahm Emanuel is BAD NEWS. He is tied to the current administration. This dude is so antigun it is not funny. To reelect you-know -who again to totally abolish the second amenment.
  8. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    What's wrong with the quote?
  9. whymememe

    whymememe Former Guest

    Oct 29, 2011
    FEMA Region IV
    Things might be better if everyone was allowed to open carry. Wear them on your hips just like Matt Dillon. People would have more respect. People would be less likely to assault or try to rob someone if they see he has gun
  10. Jerryboy

    Jerryboy Well-Known Member

    Mar 8, 2012
    open carry has it's place. if you live in an area where everyone carries that's great. but if you live in 80+% of the towns/cities of American where open carry is, thought legal, still heavily frowned upon you open yourself up to alot of problems.

    first off, you become the primary target. you could be sitting at IHOP eating bacon and eggs. someone enters the establishment with intent to rob or murder, they spot your openly carried weapon, saunter casually up behind you, and put a hole in your skull before you have a chance to react. why tip your hand? an ace up your sleeve doesn't do you any good if everyone can see it.

    secondly, sheeple react badly in the presence of guns when the bearer isn't a uniformed officer of the law. if you open carry in a place where people don't like guns, you are likely to have the cops called on you often, whether or not you are carrying legally or doing anything wrong, and eventually some young hothead rookie will respond who also doesn't like guns in the hands of peasants, which will lead to you in handcuffs for a few minutes if you're lucky, and your gun confiscated and you in jail if you're not.
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2012
  11. hogger129

    hogger129 Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2009
    Open carry/concealed carry should be by choice. My state allows open carry w/o a permit and concealed w/ a permit - although if the raging union liberals get back into office, they said they're aiming to repeal concealed carry.
  12. flintlock

    flintlock Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2007
    Upstate NY
    It feels like a clubhouse, except, if you’ve never been to a gun shop before, that part feels not quite licit, like a porn shop.

    This line was typical NY liberal. They live in a fantasy where if only there were no guns, everything would be wonderfull, No more crime, the money saved on police and prisons would pay for flowers in the parks, etc..

    The 2nd ammendment is clear in it's language and meaning, even inNY.
  13. twobit

    twobit Active Member

    Sep 15, 2010
    When someone remarks "Oh I (we) don't believe in guns!"... get close to them, look them square in the eyes... and in a low calm voice say "they do exist".
  14. Iron Eagle

    Iron Eagle Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2012
    Check out
  15. ryan42

    ryan42 New Member

    Jan 28, 2012
    marion indiana
    Tell me your killing me,you typed it correctly I really dont know,please tell me.
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