The Best Of The Lower End Manufacturers

Discussion in 'Centerfire Pistols & Revolvers' started by Rhuga, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. Rhuga

    Rhuga Member

    710
    Oct 25, 2011
    Henderson, Nevada
    Which is the best and most trouble free of the following manufacturers?
    Cobra
    I.O.
    Phoenix
    Taurus
    Kel-Tec
    Bersa

    Which brand is the worst?
     
  2. 6x6pinz

    6x6pinz New Member

    382
    Nov 1, 2008
    Mesa, Az
    for me it is like this
    Bersa
    Taurus
    Ket-tec
    Phoenix
    Cobra
    would not list IO since they can't seem to get things right and if you do end up with one and there is a problem they won't even return your email/faxes or phone calls or your FFL dealers
     

  3. CampingJosh

    CampingJosh Well-Known Member

    Sep 25, 2007
    Indiana
    I would place these into two groups.

    Bersa, Kel-tec, Taurus (Equal, just alphabetical)

    Then lower: Cobra, IO, Phoenix (again alphabetical)

    Some of Taurus' stuff will be better than some of Kel-tec's, but then on other guns it will be opposite. Both Kel-tec and Taurus are "idea" companies that frequently introduce new styles that are unlike anything else currently in production. When one of their guns shows strong market viability, one of the higher-end manufacturers will copy it in better materials and with tighter quality standards (S&W and Ruger have been guilty of this in recent years). Bersa seems less innovative, but they still make good firearms at a low price point.
     
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  4. jacksonco

    jacksonco New Member

    What? No Hi-Point?
     
  5. Helix_FR

    Helix_FR Active Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    Imperial, MO
    Yep, Id say Hi Point, Bersa, Keltec
     
  6. north tex

    north tex Active Member

    457
    Jan 30, 2011
    Leonard, Tx
    I'd have to say that in my experience it would be:
    Bersa
    Kel-Tec
    Taurus (customer service is their downfall)
    High Point would mix in about here, but IMHO they are aimed at a different market.
    The rest of them I haven't handled. Just see some negative stuff about the on the internet.
     
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  7. savage170

    savage170 Member

    439
    May 3, 2011
    FL
    Bersa
    Keltec
    Taurus
    I have also had pretty good luck with some of the FEG clones
     
  8. fleetwood1976

    fleetwood1976 Well-Known Member

    Feb 22, 2009
    Southern Indiana
    I would say kel-tec and bersa. taurus is good but I don't consider them low end on price anymore.
     
  9. group17

    group17 Member

    98
    Apr 30, 2010
    Bersa
    keltec
    hi point
    Taurus / customer service issues
    Phoenix / read the reveiws and you will see they are much better then ring of fire quality.
     
  10. Jim Hauff

    Jim Hauff New Member

    Apr 20, 2008
    Lehigh Valley, PA
    My thoughts mirror what Camping Josh posted, based upon both personal experience and from feed back from my circle of serious gun owners and shooters - all of which have CCW permits and carry and shoot regularly.
     
  11. Rhuga

    Rhuga Member

    710
    Oct 25, 2011
    Henderson, Nevada
    Thanks folks. Sorry, I forgot the Hi-Point. Right now, the High-Point C-9 9mm has some great prices as the year comes to an end.
     
  12. franco45

    franco45 New Member

    8
    Nov 8, 2011
    I have had several Bersas and Kel-Tecs that had no problems. I also had 2 Phoenix pistols that were reliable but just too many safeties for my liking.
     
  13. Double Deuce

    Double Deuce New Member

    313
    Jun 1, 2009
    Utah
    I would say Kel Tec then Bersa
     
  14. BobMcG

    BobMcG Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    I'll group them like CJ did except I'll break them into three groups, and all in my humble opinion of course.

    !st: Bersa, Taurus (own firearms from both).

    2nd: Hi-Point, Kel-tec (own firearms from both).

    3rd: Cobra, IO, Phoenix (no plans to own).
     
  15. jericho

    jericho New Member

    30
    Jun 18, 2011
    Northern Illinois
    Where does American Tactical rank?
    I see they are in CDNN catalog.
     
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