The Gun-Show "Loophole"

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by hogger129, May 28, 2010.

  1. hogger129

    hogger129 Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2009
    What is the "Gun Show Loophole?" I was reading some news about concealed carry in Wisconsin and how some gun control advocates are willing to compromise and allow concealed carry to happen in Wisconsin if the "gun show loophole" is closed. What exactly is the gun-show loophole? I guess only federally-licensed gun dealers have to run background checks. I mean wouldn't running background checks on ALL firearms be a good thing? I think it would certainly help them stay out of the hands of people that shouldn't have them. I guess I don't understand what that term means. And why the gun-control advocates want it closed. Usually gun-control advocates have something they're not telling us. What is the hidden agenda behind their "compromise?"
    Last edited: May 28, 2010
  2. wpage

    wpage Active Member

    Aug 25, 2009
    Its like the do nut hole in SS. Hard to get a handle on.

  3. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Guest

    To close the "gun show loophole" , which doesn't exist, every sale of a firearm will have to be checked. The only ones allowed to check a firearm buyer are firearms dealers and LEO. So, when you decide to sell you Browning to a buddy, so you can afford that Henry, you will both have to go down to the shop and pay for a background check.

    Now, this is a good thing, because it will make all those thieves,burglars, dope dealers and gang members show up at the local LEO shop in order to sell and buy their stolen guns. That in itself will stop all those guns from committing those crimes. It might even mean that fewer guns will be stolen, as the guns will know that they are not to change ownership without a background check. The guns then might turn on the thieves and shoot them. That would save the honest gun owners the trouble of having to get out of bed to protect their homes, families and selves. Sounds like win/win to me.

  4. The "loophole" is the U.S. Constitution, which makes the states pre-eminent in the regulation of the ownership, possession, and use of private property. An intrastate transfer of private property from one person to another, where both are residents of the same state in which the transaction occurred, is not subject to regulation under the Commerce Clause.
  5. pickenup

    pickenup Active Member

    Good-un Pops.
  6. graehaven

    graehaven Well-Known Member

    May 26, 2007
    Rochester, NY
    Outstanding point!
  7. graehaven

    graehaven Well-Known Member

    May 26, 2007
    Rochester, NY
    Yes, indeed! Very well said.
  8. hogger129

    hogger129 Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2009
    Thanks guys. I just didn't know what it really meant and I know gun-control advocates always have some tricky business behind their smiling faces. So I wanted the low-down on it from you guys first.
  9. Remember, the bigger the smile, the sharper the knife;):p
  10. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Guest

    Richard, check your PMs

  11. The so-called loophole is where private citizens sell their goods to another private citizen. This is done without a waiting period or back ground check. The anti's think that's how bangers and hoods get their guns. Actually, to tell the truth, I've been to several very large shows and you don't really see a punk laying down $600-700 for an older collectible pistol or rifle. The new stuff is sold by the licensed dealers. They make you do all the forms, etc. So, the loop hole is you buy from a PC, and walk out with it. You buy from a dealer and you get to go to their store and pick it up after the legal time has been fulfilled. So, Bob's your Uncle, that's it in a nutshell. TJ
  12. JetGirl

    JetGirl Member

    Dec 18, 2008
    Q: What do you call it when a guy (or gal) buys a firearm privately from another guy (or gal) in their home, driveway, on a country road, in a restaurant parking lot, etc.?

    A: a completely legal “face to face” transaction.

    Q: What do you call it when that exact same guy (or gal) buys that exact same firearm from the exact same other guy (or gal) in the exact same fashion in the parking lot of a swap meet or gun show?

    A: a “Gun Show Loophole”!

    The media would like you to believe that private sales taking place between individuals who are not part of the gun show are in fact what the “loophole” is about. An individual who is not in the business of selling firearms, yet trades or sells a firearm to another private individual, is not obligated to obtain the federal license required of gun dealers or to call the FBI before completing the sale. This is a PRIVATE transaction and thus is not part of a “gun show” and is by default not part of any “loophole”.

    In essence, “gun show loopholes” are akin to the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny.
    The jury is still out on Santa.
  13. Bobitis

    Bobitis Guest

    Pretty much sums it up Annie.

  14. JetGirl

    JetGirl Member

    Dec 18, 2008
  15. pinecone70

    pinecone70 Active Member

    Jul 30, 2008
    Minnesota Gal!
    I have seen dealers purchase guns from private citizens at the shows, but have not seen citizens selling to other citizens out of the trunks of cars, etc. like 'they' are always talking about. Could be that it just doesn't happen around here, or I don't see it happen. Perhaps I don't look shady enough to be in on the secret. ;)
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