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  1. wyoredot

    wyoredot New Member

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    Very Quietly Obama"s Citizenship Case Reaches the Supreme Co...]



    Well, it's been over a month and we haven't heard anything yet!



    This information from Occidental College was released TODAY, May 4,
    2010. He got financial aid as a foreign student.
    The request for his transcript was released
    in compliance with an order from the Superior Court of California. VERY
    QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES
    THE SUPREME COURT AP - WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel
    the debate over Obama's qualifications
    for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has
    Released copies of President Obama's college
    transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript
    school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received
    financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate.
    The transcript was released by Occidental College in
    compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the
    Superior Court of California. The transcript shows Obama (Soetoro)
    applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign
    students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To
    qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
    This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many
    of Obama's detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he
    was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever
    applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has
    created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts
    increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as
    President ,article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading
    some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on
    Obama's first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under
    growing pressure from several groups. Justice Antonin Scalia announced
    that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear
    arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a
    case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit
    claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as
    president. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens
    demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as
    president. Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation
    has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign
    spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000
    in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states
    for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal
    records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but
    that the final report will provided to the U..S. Attorney general, Eric
    Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter...

    LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE
    MEDIA WON'T !

    Subject: RE: Issue of Passport? While I've little interest in
    getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM
    did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama
    answering one simple question:

    What passpor did he use when he was shuttling between New York, Jakarta
    and Karachi? So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early
    June 1981 without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come
    up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later? And
    once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, Jakarta and
    Karachi, what passport was he offering when he
    passed through Customs and Immigration? The American people not only
    deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have
    answers. It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and
    simple one.

    Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
    A: Yes, by his own admission.

    Q: What passport did he travel under?
    A: There are only three possibilities.
    1) He traveled with a U.S. .. Passport,
    2) He traveled with a British passport, or
    3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

    Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
    A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State
    Department's "no travel" list in 1981.

    Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling
    either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
    If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide
    proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as
    he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport
    that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous
    citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by
    his Indonesian step-father in 1967. Whatever the truth of the
    matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a
    "natural born" American citizen between 1981 and 2008..
    Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as
    illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous
    spending
    plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of
    all this the better.

    If you Don't care that your President is not a natural born Citizen
    and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this, then lower
    your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is
    already on life-support, and won't survive much longer. If you do
    care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can,
    because our country is being looted and ransacked!



    Anyone heard differently about clownboy?
    :mad:
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  2. armedandsafe

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    Occidental College records release has been debunked as false. The first internet report of that was attributed to AP and dated April 1. AP did not publish it, the agency which "reported" the AP story didn't exist and theis whole furor over the college records and his financial aid is the result of an April Fool's Joke.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

    Pakistan was not barred to Americans at that time. There was a travel advisory in effect at that time to inform people of new visa requirements set up by the Pakastini Government.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp

    Pops
  3. zaxx

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    Look familiar? Check the date...

    APFN
    AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain
    Sun May 3, 2009 19:27
    72.201.43.207

    AP- WASHINGTON D.C. - In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking.

    The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as president. When reached for comment in London, where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue. Meanwhile, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs scoffed at the report stating that this was obviously another attempt by a right-wing conservative group to discredit the president and undermine the administration’s efforts to move the country in a new direction.

    Britain's Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned”, leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K.

    In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

    Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter.
  4. lentz

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    What is the link to source. I never believe just a bunch of typing on a computor. Show source link in posts.
  5. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Guest

    APFN (72.201.43.207) reprinted a story in a discussion thread. The story is purportedly one from AP, originally released April 1, 2009.

    The following is the results of a serach on the United States Justice Foundation for all entries on that site containing the words "Occidental College."

    Just saying ...

    Pops
  6. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Guest

    Another one: Truthorfiction.com

    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/l/lawyersues.htm
    Just saying...

    Pops
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  7. hogger129

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    I am one of those that happens to think he was actually born in Kenya. I thought even his grandmother swears to being at his birth in Kenya?

    Either way, when and if the truth comes out, they'll probably play the 'crybaby' game and get legislation passed making it legal for a non natural-born citizen to be President.

    I'll bet people in US intelligence (like the CIA) already know. But Obama's going with their game (keeping the wars going and spending money on it).
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  8. new308handloader

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  9. carver

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    1. Every one already knows that Obozo is not an American Citizen!
    2. They do not have to pass a law that will allow anyone not an American
    Citizen to hold the office of the Presidency!
    3. They have already done that in letting him run for said office, and allowing
    him to be elected to it, and now serve as the President of the U.S.
    4. The best way to change the law is to just ignore it!
    5. Now you try ignoring the law as they do!
  10. lawdawg

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    IF it is true that he is not a natural-born citizen, all he and his minions have to do is to keep the issue dragging on for two more years and (GOD HELP US) another four years if Americans are stupid enough to elect him again. The truth may come out one day, but it will be too late. He will have already served his time and inflicted the irrepairable damage that he is in the process of doing. Unfortunately, we will not be able to turn back time and the damage will be done, a footnote in a future history book.
  11. belercous

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    OMG. This is really strecthing credibility.
    News flash, wow, there is no argument about Obama's birth. Nor is there an argument about the world being a sphere. Also, we really did land on the moon. Elvis really did die. Evolution is about as proven a fact as science has ever been able to deduce. Mathematics is for fools as Pi is a human construct, practicallity be damned. Jets can't fly since they have no propellers. The pyraminds were made by aliens. The media is all ganged up against reality as they are all in on a big conspiricay, they can only lie. Up is red, black is down, green is left.

    The interweb really gets the nutcases out, ya gotta love it.
    I'm forwarding this thread, thanks guys.
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    None of Obamas programs could proceed without the support of the 111th Congress. Executive Orders excepted. i.e. Drilling moratorium.
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    The 111th Democrat congress .....Republicans didn't vote for his S&%t...except for maybe Snow bird and one or two other.
  14. wpage

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    The way our Reps are passing useless laws. By the time this is exposed we will all be suspects for violating something.
  15. Bobitis

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    Why will he not divulge the records? It's a simple question.

    B/C, passport, school records are locked up tight. Why?

    Is he hiding something? Why?
    The truth perchance? The truth will set you free, but 1st it will piss you off.

    Is that it?

    We could put this all to rest if he'd just let the records be shown. He doesn't.
    And you won't ask why?:confused:

    Mathmatics is for fools? Do you really think the world is better off without it?

    I'm amazed...
  16. belercous

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    When people get their "news" from the whack-o-sphere they tend to believe bizzare things. Those records are out there, and have been. This is not even close to being an issue. Try getting information from a variety of sources, not just those who tell you what you want to hear. Please remember that "Fox" news is not a reliable source, although I doubt that even "Fox" news would stoop so low. Sounds like Hannity or some other hate-radio lunatic's fantasy. Do your own research.
    Reality is a bitch, but it still is reality.
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    belercous, Sir , why has he , Mr Obama , created a precedent here in Australia from our FOI ( freedom of information ) ACT (law)

    that his immigration records be sealed and destroyed, that no copies nor transcripts are to survive the document recording their destruction

    his parents wished to emigrate here when he was 6 years old and listed his place of berth and faith

    they where denied entry due to links to muslim crimes against Christian school's or more specifically , his uncle and father where there.

    refusal of entry documents still exist, and where obtained before he had them shut down

    but the application is now no longer in existence

    why ?

    we do have strong laws about that and now everyone is using what is "the obama clause" in immigration applications , we dont know who we are getting and are not allowed to know.

    this is not from wacko news

    this is from me filing for a copy for a mate in the USA a couple years ago

    please tell me why my laws are changed to cover his butt? and why when a copy surfaced the originator was locked up and all trace of it removed from everwhere

    what was front page news i now cannot find at all via online

    i'm not saying conspiracy

    i'm saying its done , its already happened and its in law , here

    no conspiracy about it

    he applied via the UN , the UN said do it , we did it .. all official and such

    thats is reality
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  18. belercous

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    Jack; I don't know where you ae getting your information from, but if this was really true, don't you think that it would be reported bythe MSM? Probabbly not, as they are all in on one big conspiracy, yet none of them break it. Funny how that is, huh?
    Get your information from trusted sources, not those that tell you what you wany to hear.
    There are whacknuts who still truly believe that G.W.B. knew about 9/11. Now I really thought this guy was a horrible president and totally out of his league, but never in my wildest dreams would I ever accuse him of such a thing. Nor would I even question his patriotism. I disagreed with him on many things, but we just had political differences of opinion on how to achieve the same goals.
    This type of lunatic attacks on the periphery of reality are beyond the pale. If there is not a straight-forward attack on his policies, there is no serious debate. Making up bizzare accusations is at best a distraction, but at worst shows the lack of depth of the opposition. No teeth. Try throwing everything (no matter how far out there) up against the wall and see what sticks? Wow, some political strategy that is.
    Do you think the White House does not welcome these nut-job attacks? Especially when they are not disowned by the GOP? If the GOP doesn't disavow these attacks, they will own them come Nov. Any idea why the Dems love the Tea-Partiers so?
    Hint: the general election. I don't know about politics in Australia (other than they lean conservative) but here we lean just slightly right of center. Here, party candidates run to their respective sides in the primary, but move to the center for the general election. Americans (in general) do not elect extremists.
    That is why Obama has disaffected the liberal Democratic base (Howard Dean was the liberal, Obama and Clinton were the moderates), but no matter, it is the swing voters who decide elections, not either party's core voters. Exceptions do occur, but they are rare.
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    look , its like this , i'm no expert on US or how you see the world ,

    I WENT to the OFFICE OF PUBLIC RECORDS FOR IMMIGRATION , i paid my fee,

    i was told no ,

    i did not get it from some news guy on TV , i did not get it from some web site , i went myself

    and as for main stream media it was mein stream media but try getting a online version, you cannot
    how ?

    press negotiators who work for government

    if you want your journalist to be responded too you play the game

    the game as i call it is main stream media which may i advise you was invented here ( Australia) both packer and murdoch are aussies and grew up through the UN wheeling and dealing, the ones against the UN or who did not push the UN agenda like the sun and mirror are gone , as they where outcasts to the government and the UN and that crowd, they got no news.. and they are gone

    as is my right to question a public document

    but say i dont know what i'm talking about

    thats ok

    folks like you where saying the japanese would not try to invade malaya right up until they locked em up in camps

    why ? i just dont get it

    no america does not buy extremists but they bought a dud this time round , smooth talkin, promises easy money for those who dont have it , offers citizen ship to who aint earned it , and pays for muslim government in kenya

    all with your dollars..

    work hard mate , you'll have too
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